pritchardavid Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) Can you find any better kit for the same price (Virtualization) or have any better suggestion's for the hardware below This one is for a Intel Modular Server System Intel Chassis Components x1 Intel Chassis (MFSYS25V2) (Comes with x2PSU, x1 Networking Switch, x1 SAN Controller) £2562.73 - LambdaTek x2 1000W PSU (AXXPSU) (This will make the Intel chassis have 4 PSUs which is the max) £159.57 Each - PrimoIT x1 *Optional* - 2ND SAN Storage Controller (AXXSCM3S) - This will allow the first SAN storage controller to go faulty/stop without down time as the load will be transferred to this. Plus both can be used at the same time to load the balance. £1171.52 - CleverBoxes x1 2ND Networking Switch (AXXSW1GB) This will allow the first networking switch to go faulty/stop without down time as the load will be transferred to this. Plus both can be used at the same time to load the balance, and better performance on the networking side. £841.23 – Cleverboxes *Needed For Above Optional Option* x6 Extra Intel Ethernet Ports (AXXGBIOMEZV) This allows the 2nd Networking Switch to be connected to the server by adding two extra Ethernet ports. This means a total of 4 Ethernet ports per a server. £99.75 - PrimoIT x1 Intel Shared LUN Licence Key (MFSLUNKEY) - Enables the Shared SAN Feature. £230.28 - PrimoIT Hard Drives - Choices (Chassis Holds 14) x14 - £244.60 Each - 600GB Seagate (ST9600205SS) - (64MB Cache) - Scan OR x14 - £262.25 Each - 512GB Crucial SSD m4 (CT2287679) - Direct From Crucial *Needed For Above Optional Option (Crucial SSD)* x14 Hard Drive Connection Converter (AXXTM3SATA) This converts the hard drive connection to fit the Intel chassis. £26.71 - PrimoIT Intel Server Components Intel Modular Server MFS5520VIR (No Memory, Holds 12 RAM Modules, No CPU, Holds 2 CPU) x6 - £621.70 Each – PrimoIT Ram - Kingston 8GB 1333MHZ (KVR1066D3Q8R7S/8GI) Total per server = 96GB x72 - £41.43 Each - LambdaTek Intel 2.80GHZ X5660 6Core Processor - Scan x12 - £796.04 Each x6 - Microsoft Server Data Centre Licence (We already have x5 Enterprise, so we just need a upgrade on 5 licences, and one new licence) If I'm correct this is the total price Without the extra OS licensing that needs to be done! Total Price with normal Hard Drives = £25,413.44 Total Price with SSDs = £26,034.48 Only thing that worries me with the SSDs, is the model I have is not on their Hardware Compatibility List. But on the Corsairs website it's got this message 'Guaranteed-compatible with the Intel MFS5520VIR' So if I'm thinking correct Intel just doesn't want to approve it because, they want to recommend their own Intel SSDs? What's your thoughts on the kit? Recommend something totally different? or just a slight change? Or its a good choice? I think they said they want this to last 5 years EDIT: Just rechecked the prices again, now gone down about £150 in total, this is without ringing up any companies for better prices Edited July 2, 2012 by pritchardavid
MrWu Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) A good company quoted me on a MultiFlex System of this spec It had more expensive HDDs and less memory, but the company knew it's stuff. They are DM Systems I could PM you thier details if you like. Edited July 2, 2012 by MrWu
MrWu Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Sorry, don't know what happened there! Edited reply above :-)
cpjitservices Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 for a grand direct from Dell you can a T710, it's one hell of a server I'd be looking at something similar with those specs.
glennda Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) I purchased from @Millgate before I left 2 x DL360's 100Gb ram Dual 6 core Xeon Dual Powersupply + 4 port network cards + Fiber HBA for Sub 12k (i think i can't remember). You can then get an HP MSA P2000 on 50% cashback all for less then that cost above! Something like this with these Should give about 6TB raid 50 (i think!). Edited July 3, 2012 by glennda 1
themightymrp Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 I look at that spec at the top of the page and I weep with envy Wish we had 26k to spend on a server, a couple of k would be nice at the minute
PotNoodleTech Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 How many users / workstations is this going to serve and how many/what type of VMs? Regardless of whether it's overkill for you or not - IMHO £26k on a single point of faliure server which has zero warranty is very risky.
Millgate Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 Hi chap, Just had a quick glace over the prices above & if you like, i can send you over a better quote? Just PM or email me where you're from and i'll do you an official quote Cheers
psydii Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) The IMS is not a single point of failure, though given no support on OEM parts, it does seem a bit risky to BYO. The IMS It is a highly resilient device with Dual paths for everything. I very nearly bought one, but Hitachi offered me a deal on a huge SAN so I wouldn't have to go back to management asking for more disks after 18 months. Have a chat with Viglen. They are very good at VMs, servers, storage and support therof. Edited July 3, 2012 by psydii
Dos_Box Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 Moving to Hardware forum where it should be...or Virtualisation Forum. Nah! Hardware it is. *PLEASE POST THREADS IN THE CORRECT PLACE, IT'S GETTING A BIT BURDOMSOM HAVING TO MOVE THREADS CONSTANTLY.
localzuk Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 One thing - consumer type SSDs don't seem to work with RAID properly from what I've seen - TRIM doesn't work apparently.
gshaw Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) Paid a bit less than that for 3 x DL380 and an EMC SAN last year, funny enough one of the other options was the Modular Server but I don't like everything in one box and I also don't like OEM kit. If an SP packs up on our SAN an engineer is there NBD (if not sooner) with the replacement, can you get the same levels of service from whitebox kit? Would also be a bit worried by the self build route, lots of scope for suppliers blaming each other if something goes wrong. Might sound a bit on the paranoid side but with servers \ SANs I think it's a good thing Edited July 3, 2012 by gshaw
apeman Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I would go to Dell direct they will give you a much better deal that no one can touch, you will also get much better hardware and support You could get a MD3220i or MD3620i with about 7TB of storage and 2 or 3 very good spec R610's What are you planning to virtualze?? as x12 6core processors is overkill. Spend the money on extra memory or a good switch that can be used for the iscsi traffic like HP 2910-24G or 3500yl-24G
twin--turbo Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Build your own at that scale does sound risky when a decent set of off the shel servers from Dell or HP can easily be had with care packs. But as is mentioned... What do you want to achive? Rob
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