localzuk Posted April 26, 2012 Posted April 26, 2012 Blimey....The Daily Fail still going on about it : Jamie is 13 and hasn't even kissed a girl. But he's now on the Sex Offender Register after online porn warped his mind... | Mail Online I honestly thought they would have moved on to something else now....house prices/immigration/cancer or all 3. The Daily Mail launched their own crusade/campaign to push for filtering last week, so I'd expect to see this in the paper and on their site every day.
SchoolsBroadband Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 you could try using Forticlient Lite. This comes with free content filtering with anti virus. If can also be password protected so your children can't just turn it off. Just google "forticlient lite"
localzuk Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 Aha....that explains it then. Another article today saying Labour support the campaign now too... Someone has highlighted something key - would this process not be an interference into private/family lives by the state, and therefore potentially fall foul of the (much derided) Human Rights Act?
Davit2005 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 Unless you can check the absolute identity/age/suitability of who is logged into the machine that is accessing the web page at that time, how will it work unless you have a blanket ban for everyone unless better control can be obtained at the user end.
X-13 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 how will it work unless you have a blanket ban for everyone unless better control can be obtained at the user end. The current system is fine. If it's good enough for their precious offspring while they're in school, it's good enough for their use at home. I think I may have to have a word with our head/ICT Co-ord to get something made up and sent out to advise parents about filtering... Le EDIT: [censored] Friday night and I'm thinking about work... Damn you, Edugeek.
plexer Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 One article I read about this was saying that isp's such as virgin and google need to be responsible........ Oh dear. Ben
X-13 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 One article I read about this was saying that isp's such as virgin and google need to be responsible........ Oh dear. Ben Oh, God... I think I just made a hole in the moon with the table I just flipped... Why are these people allowed to breed...
localzuk Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 One article I read about this was saying that isp's such as virgin and google need to be responsible........ Oh dear. Ben Most of the 'conservative' papers have quotes from various people saying that the government isn't willing to listen as companies like Google and Facebook have their ear, and its not in their interests to introduce a filter. All it has done for me is prove once again that politicians and 'pressure groups' have no idea how technology works. It reminds me of this scene in IT Crowd...
X-13 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 All it has done for me is prove once again that politicians and 'pressure groups' have no idea how technology works. It reminds me of this scene in IT Crowd... Off-topic, but what the hay. I wonder how many people I could trick with that... Make an "internet" box, disable everyone's internet access... Tell them I'm going maintenance on the internet... If anything, it'd be a good test of whether someone should be in charge of teaching children...
Davit2005 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 All it has done for me is prove once again that politicians and 'pressure groups' have no idea how technology works. It reminds me of this scene in IT Crowd... I loved that scene
Davit2005 Posted April 27, 2012 Posted April 27, 2012 The current system is fine. If it's good enough for their precious offspring while they're in school, it's good enough for their use at home. I think I may have to have a word with our head/ICT Co-ord to get something made up and sent out to advise parents about filtering... Le EDIT: [censored] Friday night and I'm thinking about work... Damn you, Edugeek. While in school they SHOULD be plenty protected. There should be blanket bans on certain types of illegal web content whatever, wherever, whoever you are within UK.
localzuk Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 While in school they SHOULD be plenty protected. There should be blanket bans on certain types of illegal web content whatever, wherever, whoever you are within UK. Who determines if the content is illegal or not? Surely that's for a judge to decide, not for some pen pusher in an office somewhere? That's one of the points here - what you see as 'illegal' could be seen as 'art' by others. Determinations of legality should be the realm of the courts, not politicians.
Davit2005 Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 Not talking anything like censorship of web content. With mobile devices access to Internet maybe the software/hardware manufacturers could make it easier. Anyone know some decent guidance sites for none technicals to see what is available?
Dos_Box Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 The current system is fine. If it's good enough for their precious offspring while they're in school, it's good enough for their use at home. I think I may have to have a word with our head/ICT Co-ord to get something made up and sent out to advise parents about filtering... Le EDIT: [censored] Friday night and I'm thinking about work... Damn you, Edugeek. Remember to use this: EduGeek.net - A (Quick) Guide to Windows Parental Controls As I've said (many times) on previous occasions, all of the modern OS's offer free parental controls - and Microsoft's is a corker! - so there really is no need for this kind of legislation, only education.
sonofsanta Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 Cameron is going to weigh in on the issue now: BBC News - Consultation on child internet porn measures This is my favourite line Conservative backbencher Claire Perry has accused internet companies of being "complicit" in exposing children to pornography and "dragging their feet" on the issue. I mean, the TalkTalk home page is literally plastered with SluttyCollegeGirls adverts, it's terrible how they're complicit in promoting the pornography industry. Maybe it's about time we stamped down on newsagents for selling jazz mags, or the Royal Mail for carrying smutty postcards that perpetuate a male-dominant sexualised culture.
X-13 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Cameron is going to weigh in on the issue now: BBC News - Consultation on child internet porn measures This is my favourite line I mean, the TalkTalk home page is literally plastered with SluttyCollegeGirls adverts, it's terrible how they're complicit in promoting the pornography industry. Maybe it's about time we stamped down on newsagents for selling jazz mags, or the Royal Mail for carrying smutty postcards that perpetuate a male-dominant sexualised culture. http://www.marsenis.eu/rage/Cereal%20Guy%20Spitting.png
jdell Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I'm against my ISP controlling any kind of filter on my connection - I pay them to provide me a connection to the Internet, nothing more. What happens when a site you want to go on inexplicably gets classed as a porn site? Or the ISP decides to go "improve their service" by filtering other sites they class as immoral or illegal? In theory, it's a great idea to have someone protect our kids from the evils of the Internet, but I fear that in practice we'll just end up giving away yet more of our freedom under the guise of a "good thing". I completely agree with this, it's all very nice saying let let the ISP filter out your internet, however good it may be to protect children from the dangers of the internet, thats the parents job and we in no way should be apply pressure to the ISP's to start filtering our traffic, because before too long your end up in a state like China is and a few other contries where the ISP are filtering anything that they or the goverment deem to not be suitable. This debate is bigger than just the "Porn" side of things, with Virgin saying they will filter out the Pirate bay after a high court junction it's jus tleading us down the path the a complete Nanny state.
X-13 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Virgin saying they will filter out the Pirate bay after a high court junction it's jus tleading us down the path the a complete Nanny state. Actually, they not saying they'll do it. They HAVE done it. And their hand was forced. They refused to originally, saying they wouldn't block it until they got a court order. The court order was granted so now they have no choice. They CAN appeal it, but until it's revoked the block stands. http://2012rankmaniac.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/rankmaniac2012-40.gif
localzuk Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Cameron is going to weigh in on the issue now: BBC News - Consultation on child internet porn measures This is my favourite line I mean, the TalkTalk home page is literally plastered with SluttyCollegeGirls adverts, it's terrible how they're complicit in promoting the pornography industry. Maybe it's about time we stamped down on newsagents for selling jazz mags, or the Royal Mail for carrying smutty postcards that perpetuate a male-dominant sexualised culture. What I don't understand is how this issue becomes a national issue which the PM has to then wade in on, and arrange consultations? It just seems to be a minority of people shouting loudly getting lots of airtime when those people who actually look at it logically are ignored or demonised as being complicit or worse.
X-13 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 What I don't understand is how this issue becomes a national issue which the PM has to then wade in on, and arrange consultations? It just seems to be a minority of people shouting loudly getting lots of airtime when those people who actually look at it logically are ignored or demonised as being complicit or worse. Edugeek for consult?
X-13 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 So who on here is going to opt in? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Nope. Mainly because it's not my internet. But, also because I don't trust them. It won't stay as an adult filter... It'll turn into a censorship/RIAA/MAFIAA tool.
localzuk Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 (edited) Edugeek for consult? That would just end up being a national scandal. Site full of people working in schools calling for porn to be available to children?! The Daily Mail would have a field day! So who on here is going to opt in? I'll say I would - considering how Edugeek has been classified as an adult site by several filters I've used in the past (and not just as a forum, but actually as adult), and others have too, I don't want my web browsing life complicated by some filter being controlled by random government people. Not to mention, its a shared connection so I don't know what my house-mates get up to. BTW. Opt-In is 'opt in to being able to view adult stuff'. The campaigners have got their opt-in/opt-out the wrong way round. Edited May 4, 2012 by localzuk
JJonas Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 actually thinking about this its going to be an opt out isnt it (wrote the last post in a hurry) Im going to opt out simply because I dont trust them to get the filtering right.
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