StewartKnight Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 I was looking at a package that could create an image of a machine, then multicast to a group of machines (all in PXE, as Dells are pants once you get to the SMB section of RIS). This software could also deploy software to the clients. All done in a matter of minutes. It had other features, but these were the ones I was interested in. [rant]Anyway, the Head has said NO, because he wants to spend the money getting projectors into classrooms, even though I pointed out that they'd never get used, and would be a huge burden in terms of costs. He reckons that each dept would pay for a bulb when it went. Knowing this bunch of whiney teachers... they'll argue black is white, and in the end, the money will come from my budget, without my authorisation![/rant] Therefore...... I'm looking at something that does the same, in one package, and is cheaper. This package was £4k, for 150 desktops (£21 per seat + 20% support costs). Is anyone using a cheaper package that they can recommend, that does all of the above?
RobJohnson Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Have you looked into the price of Ghost? According to our records we purchased Ghost Solution Suite 2 via Phoenix Software for £5.16 per PC with a £1.19 support license per PC and a media cost of £16.07 (all pre-vat).... So if thats the case your outlay could be less than a £1000.
tosca925 Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 all in PXE, as Dells are pants once you get to the SMB section of RIS). Could you elaborate more on this as we have over 300 Dell's and have no problems with RIS at all.
Dos_Box Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 No RIS issues here on a purely dell based network. You do have to edit the ini files though on a lot of Broadcom cards (and some Intel IIRC) though. This is niot just a Dell issue. Ris is a fantastic tool which actually has easier configuration and running methods than most commercial products I've encountered.
StewartKnight Posted May 18, 2007 Author Posted May 18, 2007 I managed to get RIS working on a handbuilt machine, diverting the NIC drivers, but the Dell Optiplex refused to work, even with the latest drivers. I know it's not me, as I got it to work with another machine... ergo... its Dell!
Espada Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Do a search for DriveImage XML, it has a BartPE plugin and would probably do what you want and it is free. That is how we do it.
fooby Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 There is also g4l or Ghost 4 Linux - which iirc is free (as in GPL) fooby
tosca925 Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 I managed to get RIS working on a handbuilt machine, diverting the NIC drivers, but the Dell Optiplex refused to work, even with the latest drivers. Which Optiplex?? I imaged 70 of these last summer?
bishopsgarthstockton Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 We use ghost here, does the job we hate. never used ris. will do soon though as i make my way through the MCSE
StewartKnight Posted May 18, 2007 Author Posted May 18, 2007 At least I'll know who to turn to for help!
bishopsgarthstockton Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 yep done the 70-270 and 70-290 exams up to now. Think I shall start looking at the 70-291 thyis weekend. Boys night in tonight, Spiderman 3 and pizza, wshed down with some jack daniels and coke
ctbjs Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 We use RIS to initiate PXE environment and then use Ghost 7.0 and use the Multicast server option to load images to a classroom. It works great providing someone hasn't disabled multicasting on your switches and lost the passwords as we had here at the start of last year!!!
StewartKnight Posted May 18, 2007 Author Posted May 18, 2007 Boys night IN watching Spiderman 3......??? Naughty naughty ;-)
projector1 Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 You can rent out entire cinemas you know.. on techicians salaries! :x
Guest kerrymoralee9280 Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 We use Ghost to image them through RIS. Works a treat for us, apart from Multicasting doesn't work on some machines, but we think it's some part of the setup in the switch thats stopping it.
Geoff Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 If your having trouble with multicast, it's best to specifically set the multcast address ranges for ghost on your switches. Rather than relying on the switches to 'learn' them.
DMcCoy Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 I spent hours looking at switch configs too. Turns out with ghost solution suite, some broadcom nics don't do multicast with the PXE driver. It finds the nic, joins the session and the when you send it nothing at all happens! I just switch my ghost boot image temporarily to a broadcom only driver from normal PXE one when I do those rooms. Its slow, but it does work now.
Dos_Box Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 I managed to get RIS working on a handbuilt machine, diverting the NIC drivers, but the Dell Optiplex refused to work, even with the latest drivers. I know it's not me, as I got it to work with another machine... ergo... its Dell! I use LOTS of Optiplex models. please let me know which you are using and I should be able to help out.
ICTNUT Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 I have over 400 Dell OptiPles's with RIS and no problems at all, where are you adding the latest drivers to and also once you add the drivers are you restarting the RIS service?? Start -> Run -> CMD ->net stop binlsvc then Start -> Run -> CMD ->net start binlsvc
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