Flatpackhamster Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Yes, the truth is in a former leaders autobiography. It's rather easier to find in there than it is in Der Guadrian List Of Bad Fings Wot Fatcher Dun.
36Degrees Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) I can't remember the exact wording but there used to be a large poster in Stanley that said something along the lines of all Argentinians being welcome as visitors providing they accept that the Falkland islanders want to remain British. The Argentinians have always wanted the "Malvinas" for the rich fishing grounds but naturally interest increased dramatically when oil and gas was discovered and this will further increase if it is proved that extraction is economically viable. As to the aircraft stationed there, the Tornado F3s were replaced by Typhoons although I'm not sure exactly when. EDIT: Interweb says that the Typhoons deployed in September 2009 Edited February 8, 2012 by 36Degrees
36Degrees Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 I was going to list the other aircraft there and I'm glad I didn't as I'd forgotten about the Chinook!
CAM Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Victory in the Falklands was a pretty hefty symbol of British power, they won't just let it go. It will be interesting to see how a conflict would affect operations in the Middle East though. I really hope they don't go to war as it really isn't fair on the people who live there. They already have to deal with landmines.
JonWPS Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 I think we'd be able to defend as it is anyway, without having to commit extra forces. Those pulling out of Afghanistan will need to be getting ready for the Iranian adventure anyway...
kernewek-sam Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 +1 It lets them take the focus off domestic issues and rile the population up against someone else other than the politicians. Surely they have better things to do than get all worked up over a bunch of islands they've had no control over for centuries. I wonder if ours are doing the same.
jdoyle Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 some words and phrases that came into the British mindset/vocabulary during/after Falklands 2 (Falklands 1 = Dec 1914) Pucara yomping trench foot The Belgrano (a survivor of Pearl Harbour) exclusion zone Black Buck/Vulcan Exocet Sir Galahad I counted them all out and I counted them all back Ascension Atlantic Conveyor H Argentinian conscripts Stanley
kevbaz Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 that list could be endless.. Harriers HMS Invincible Gotcha! Goose Green Gurkah Red and Green Life Saving Machine Super Etendard HMS Conqueror Bravo November Falklands have played a big part in my life, having friends and family serve during the war and being part of a team creating a mod for operation flashpoint. got a loft full of books and memrobeilia
jdoyle Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 that list could be endless.. Falklands have played a big part in my life, having friends and family serve during the war and being part of a team creating a mod for operation flashpoint. got a loft full of books and memrobeilia Would be interested to see what has stuck in other heads from the era. Only 1 family member involved in this conflict. D Squadron survivor. I tried to re-enlist at the time. A damned silly idea.
36Degrees Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Some of my thoughts, memories, etc. are from doing my 4 months there in 2001. My most vivid is seeing the rows of gravestones for Argentinian soldiers many of which said "known unto God"
Flatpackhamster Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Would be interested to see what has stuck in other heads from the era. Only 1 family member involved in this conflict. D Squadron survivor. I tried to re-enlist at the time. A damned silly idea. I was 6 at the time so I don't really remember anything except a few snippets from the TV. I recently picked up a book called "Don't Cry for Me, Sergeant Major" which was written by two embedded journalists at the time. Cracking read.
synaesthesia Posted February 8, 2012 Author Posted February 8, 2012 Wow, quite some thoughts then. The bulk happy to leave it to the inhabitants to decide. I haven't said too much about the rights and wrongs as being brutally honest, I know very little of the original conflicts and only that Argentina is hardly known for being particularly fair so I can't really comment on it too much. I didn't know about the oil there at all, in fact as soon as I read that post I chuckled to myself "Ahhh, Oil - the second biggest reason for war". Re aircraft carrier: sorry that's not me getting the wrong end of the stick, it's me unable to remember the word for "bloody big ship" and carrier came to mind
Dos_Box Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 I was 6 at the time so I don't really remember anything except a few snippets from the TV. I recently picked up a book called "Don't Cry for Me, Sergeant Major" which was written by two embedded journalists at the time. Cracking read. Try and find the follow up 'Try not to laugh Sergeant Major' if you can. It was written after the war about the British army in NATO. Another very funny book. 1
Flatpackhamster Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Try and find the follow up 'Try not to laugh Sergeant Major' if you can. It was written after the war about the British army in NATO. Another very funny book. Thanks, I'll track it down.
localzuk Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Im goign to belive my brother who is acivly serving on board... the Ship is a mess and is constantly breaking down, constant floods, fires and system malfunctions. She was planned to go a few months back, but shes not anymore. So... https://news.google.co.uk/news/story?q=hms+dauntless&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvnsu&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&ion=1&biw=1350&bih=1013&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=d2f6r-pnIPJTXWMo1AtHNOtE0VOpM&ei=X4l8T4WJLYiQ0AW8hLSgDQ&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQqgIwAA
Dos_Box Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 So... https://news.google.co.uk/news/story?q=hms+dauntless&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvnsu&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&ion=1&biw=1350&bih=1013&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=d2f6r-pnIPJTXWMo1AtHNOtE0VOpM&ei=X4l8T4WJLYiQ0AW8hLSgDQ&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQqgIwAA Indeed, just because he's on board dosn't necessarily mean he knows what is going on. I've been in the middle of wars and didn't know what was happening!
CyberNerd Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Indeed, just because he's on board dosn't necessarily mean he knows what is going on. I've been in the middle of wars and didn't know what was happening! sounds like a day at school sometimes
localzuk Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Indeed, just because he's on board dosn't necessarily mean he knows what is going on. I've been in the middle of wars and didn't know what was happening! Yup. A friend of mine found out she was being deployed when a random officer at her camp said 'you ready to go then?' as they'd forgot to tell her officially!
Earthling Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Falklands have played a big part in my life, having friends and family serve during the war and being part of a team creating a mod for operation flashpoint. got a loft full of books and memrobeilia I just noticed this post...........is OpFlash still alive and well? Or was that years ago?
TechMonkey Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Yup. A friend of mine found out she was being deployed when a random officer at her camp said 'you ready to go then?' as they'd forgot to tell her officially! Definitely sounds like working in a school!
GrumbleDook Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Indeed, just because he's on board dosn't necessarily mean he knows what is going on. I've been in the middle of wars and didn't know what was happening! (the scene is a dimly lit Guard Room in the south of England. a young Lance Comical is duty RP and sat behind the desk, busy updating the DOB after a strange phone call from the local glider club about using our airfield ... which hasn't existing for about 35 years. In walks the Adjutant, a sprightly chap with a keen eye for camp discipline, a stickler for dress codes and this is not helped by the wide range of trainees / retraining soldiers from other corps/ regt ... or the officers based on the garrison who seem to excel in the more eccentric aspects of Rupert-ness ... including a cavalry officer who insists on wearing No 2 Dress shoes with Battle Dress and a Pattern 58 belt!) "Your flight to Washington leaves tomorrow evening and the dress code for a driver is x." "Washington?" "Yes, but it is only for 7 weeks and it is 8 days on and 3 days off. There will be enought of you to cover." "Washington? I presume we are talking about the place in the States and not the North East, sir." "Yes." "How are we flying over?" "BA." "Will I be using an automatic at all?" "No, no weapons at all." "I meant an automatic car ... I'm presuming that this is what I would need after my surgery next week." "Surgery?" "On my knee." "Oh yes ... We'll reschedule that." "What are the arrangements for passports, sir?" "Just keep hold of it, no need for anyone to centrally hold them." "If you remember sir ... I don't have one." "Why didn't you get it sorted when we started this 5 months ago?" "You've only just told me about it now, sir." "Now listen here, Orders clearly named 5 people to go on this detail. are you telling me that you have failed to read Orders?" (ruffling through orders to find the relevant section) "Here you go, 5 people to be staff drivers. All existing drivers considered. If spaces available others can apply." "Yes sir, but there are no names." "But you are down as a driver." "No sir." "Then you put your name in." "No sir." "Then someone else did." (quick check of the boss and the RSM) "I'm afraid we can't find who might have put my name in, sir." "Well, we'll work something on the passport. All you need is to be able to drive the staff cars and be 25." "ermmm ...." "Spit it out lad." "I'm 23, sir." "Oh B*#%#}¥S!" (storms out the Guard Room) Edited April 5, 2012 by GrumbleDook 1
aerospacemango Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 @GrumbleDook Much like most people's experience of service life! Mind you, I had a decent Warrant Officer....who sent me to Greenham Common...and then on HMS Ark Royal!
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