frognet1970 Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 Hi Everyone - further to my last post, I am still not having success with Windows 7 Start Menu Redirection ! on Windows 7 Professional clients. We run Windows 2008 r2 Servers abeilt running Windows 2003 functional level, we have majority of Windows XP clients all working fine. Have recently been testing Windows 7 for a proposed rollout this August. Our shared Start Menu is \\server\start$ the GPO that deals with it redirects the desktop etc and student home folder. However on Windows 7 we still get [empty] on the programs menu. If I check the event viewer on the machine I get no errors see attachment I have got start menu redirection working on a seperate server with Windows 7 but within school it having none of it. If anyone has got any further thoughts or pointers I would be very grateful ! Many thanks Kevin
FN-GM Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 I have seen a couple of people with this but i dont know a fix, i didnt chase it up or anything. I would be interested to know how to resolve this.
Gatt Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 Your GPO is configured correctly Howeverm under the \\server\start$ share do you have a folder called "Programs"? Without this - you wont see anything in the redirected start menu..
frognet1970 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Posted April 28, 2011 Hi yes we do have a 'programs' folder in the share and within that the start menu items
mitchell1981 Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Are you running SP1 on your workstations? I vaguely remember this being mentioned as a bug that was fixed in SP1. I used to have this problem but not any more and my Windows 7 machines are running SP1.
frognet1970 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Posted May 1, 2011 Not on my test machine ! I will have a look on Tuesday when back to work thanks
Stuart_C Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 I've got 2K8 R2 servers and a mix of 7 (not SP1 yet) and Xp SP3 machines and my folder redirection works fine. Admitidly to a local source but still fine. One thing I notice your message says you redirect to \\server\start$ but the message log (image) says it is re-directed to \\server\start\ Does the event log knock of the $ for some reason or is there a typo? Though that wouldn't explain why your other machines still worked.
FN-GM Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 I've got 2K8 R2 servers and a mix of 7 (not SP1 yet) and Xp SP3 machines and my folder redirection works fine. Admitidly to a local source but still fine. One thing I notice your message says you redirect to \\server\start$ but the message log (image) says it is re-directed to \\server\start\ Does the event log knock of the $ for some reason or is there a typo? Though that wouldn't explain why your other machines still worked. Well spotted. In the setting in group policy it might be worth specifying it as \\server\start$\ rather than \\server\start$
TheScarfedOne Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) If you take a look on my blog, I talked about this PITA of a bug. There was a dodgy Windows Update which broke folder redirection. The way to fix it was to delete a few registry entries. Issue 2: Folder Redirection If you get a blank desktop or start menu (or both) but you know your folder redirection is working/set up properly... run the following. It clears out the KnownFolders section of the registry which have got broken. strKeyPath = "CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{2112AB0A-C86A-4ffe-A368-0DE96E47012E}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{491E922F-5643-4af4-A7EB-4E7A138D8174}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{7b0db17d-9cd2-4a93-9733-46cc89022e7c}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A302545D-DEFF-464b-ABE8-61C8648D939B}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A990AE9F-A03B-4e80-94BC-9912D7504104}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath Standard rules apply, YMMV Edited May 13, 2011 by ChrisH
frognet1970 Posted May 3, 2011 Author Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) If you take a look on my blog, I talked about this PITA of a bug. There was a dodgy Windows Update which broke folder redirection. The way to fix it was to delete a few registry entries. Issue 2: Folder Redirection If you get a blank desktop or start menu (or both) but you know your folder redirection is working/set up properly... run the following. It clears out the KnownFolders section of the registry which have got broken. strKeyPath = "CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{2112AB0A-C86A-4ffe-A368-0DE96E47012E}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{491E922F-5643-4af4-A7EB-4E7A138D8174}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{7b0db17d-9cd2-4a93-9733-46cc89022e7c}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A302545D-DEFF-464b-ABE8-61C8648D939B}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath strKeyPath = "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A990AE9F-A03B-4e80-94BC-9912D7504104}" oReg.DeleteKey HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, strKeyPath Standard rules apply, YMMV Hi thanks for your reply - am gonna ask a real Noddy question now - how do I run the above ? Many thanks Kevin Edited May 13, 2011 by ChrisH
Chunks_ Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 Copy it into a notepad but you need this : Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 At the top. Save the file as .reg then double click to merge it into the registry .....
FN-GM Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 I am having this issue now on a Server 2008 R2 terminal server i did the reg edits and it didnt work
Arthur Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 @TheScarfedOne. Please use CODE tags for scripts etc. vBulletin inserts random spaces otherwise.
ChrisH Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Copy it into a notepad but you need this : Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 At the top. Save the file as .reg then double click to merge it into the registry ..... That is vb script code not a registry import. To use it paste the contents into a text file and name it whateverfilename.vbs make sure you select all files as the type or it will end up being called whateverfilename.vbs.txt. @TheScarfedOne. Please use CODE tags for scripts etc. vBulletin inserts random spaces otherwise. @Arthur Fixed.
Arthur Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Thanks, Chris. Here's the .reg version should anyone need it. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{2112AB0A-C86A-4FFE-A368-0DE96E47012E}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{491E922F-5643-4AF4-A7EB-4E7A138D8174}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{7B0DB17D-9CD2-4A93-9733-46CC89022E7C}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A302545D-DEFF-464B-ABE8-61C8648D939B}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A990AE9F-A03B-4E80-94BC-9912D7504104}] 1
FN-GM Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Thanks, Chris. Here's the .reg version should anyone need it. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{2112AB0A-C86A-4FFE-A368-0DE96E47012E}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{491E922F-5643-4AF4-A7EB-4E7A138D8174}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{7B0DB17D-9CD2-4A93-9733-46CC89022E7C}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A302545D-DEFF-464B-ABE8-61C8648D939B}] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A990AE9F-A03B-4E80-94BC-9912D7504104}] It doesn't work for me, would there need to be changes to work on Server 2008 R2 please?
Arthur Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) Just tried it myself in a 2008 R2 VM, and it looks like it's failing because "TrustedInstaller" is the only user who can delete the first registry key in that .reg file... HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5} Edited May 13, 2011 by Arthur
FN-GM Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 What do you think to resolve it? Maybe change the permissions on HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}
ful56_uk Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 i had same problem with blank start menu, i was redirecting this to C:\startmenu for each machine, i found if i disabled Remove user's folders from the Start Menu setting in gpo my menus started working fine 2
sister_annex Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 i had same problem with blank start menu, i was redirecting this to C:\startmenu for each machine, i found if i disabled Remove user's folders from the Start Menu setting in gpo my menus started working fine The same worked for us but.... Doing this will show all shortcuts (both local and redirected) on the start menu and desktop - for the time being this is something we are going to live with but hopefully this will eventually get sorted.
FN-GM Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 i had same problem with blank start menu, i was redirecting this to C:\startmenu for each machine, i found if i disabled Remove user's folders from the Start Menu setting in gpo my menus started working fine I read that that would fix it but i set it to not configured. I will try Disable on monday
Arthur Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) What do you think to resolve it? I would try what ful56_uk suggested first, but if that doesn't work you can reset the permissions (using SetACL) and delete the registry keys using the batch file below. ECHO OFF cd /d "%~dp0" SetACL -on "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}" -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:S-1-5-32-544;s:y" SetACL -on "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}" -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:S-1-5-32-544;p:full;s:y" REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5} /F REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{031E4825-7B94-4DC3-B131-E946B44C8DD5} /F REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{2112AB0A-C86A-4FFE-A368-0DE96E47012E} /F REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{491E922F-5643-4AF4-A7EB-4E7A138D8174} /F REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{7B0DB17D-9CD2-4A93-9733-46CC89022E7C} /F REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A302545D-DEFF-464B-ABE8-61C8648D939B} /F REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{A990AE9F-A03B-4E80-94BC-9912D7504104} /F PAUSE Edited May 13, 2011 by Arthur
bart21 Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 We have a GP that removes everything from the start menu , then a login script that redirects it according to the value of a reg key for that room. Nick
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