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following some less than flattering photos of myself.. ive decided that I really need to get a grip and lose some of this weight Ive collected over the last 10 years..

 

Im 6ft and pretty broad, grew up playing rugby so still got some of the shape from that..

 

I was 78KG when I left school, 10 years ago, and when it hit home was when the scales tipped the balance at 101Kg the other week..

 

My physical excersise from when I was at school has gone from 3 sports and 5 sessions a week to 0.. I started smoking at 13/14 but I put on a good stone after quitting smoking when I was 21

 

Ive managed to get myself from 101Kg to 96kg in 3weeks, by changing my eating habits and cutting out midweek driking.. (I used to drink 6 beers / bottle of wine a night easy).. Ive started a 5 aside league, and strarted some light training with another football club recently too..

 

I want to seriously lose the full belly and man tits.. is joining a gym the only solution? If I keep up with the health(er) eating plan and the cut down drinking, will I continue to lose the wieght or will it level out..

 

Any tips welcome.. kinda embaressed posting this so I guess thats step one of getting over a problem eh.. "My names Rabbie and Im a fatB$trd!"

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following some less than flattering photos of myself.. ive decided that I really need to get a grip and lose some of this weight Ive collected over the last 10 years..

 

Im 6ft and pretty broad, grew up playing rugby so still got some of the shape from that..

 

I was 78KG when I left school, 10 years ago, and when it hit home was when the scales tipped the balance at 101Kg the other week..

 

My physical excersise from when I was at school has gone from 3 sports and 5 sessions a week to 0.. I started smoking at 13/14 but I put on a good stone after quitting smoking when I was 21

 

Ive managed to get myself from 101Kg to 96kg in 3weeks, by changing my eating habits and cutting out midweek driking.. (I used to drink 6 beers / bottle of wine a night easy).. Ive started a 5 aside league, and strarted some light training with another football club recently too..

 

I want to seriously lose the full belly and man tits.. is joining a gym the only solution? If I keep up with the health(er) eating plan and the cut down drinking, will I continue to lose the wieght or will it level out..

 

Any tips welcome.. kinda embaressed posting this so I guess thats step one of getting over a problem eh.. "My names Rabbie and Im a fatB$trd!"

 

hey

 

i lost 5 stone in 10 weeks about 2 years ago and have kept it off also !!! now happy and slim lol i must add lol

i did it using this

 

Cambridge Weight Plan: a flexible range of weight management programmes aimed at both men and women

 

you just have to make sure once you come of them you eat sensible for good no crap and i exercise regular now also but its a quick fast way

 

kelly

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I wouldnt advise something like the Cambridge Diet - it may have worked for BIST but many people put the weight back on very quickly.

You will continue to lose weight but yes, eventually you will slow down or plateau, at which time you will need to reduce your intake of fatty, sugary foods and drink!

A good method is to remove a third of what you put on your plate. Do make sure that you keep the balance of foods right though. This might give you an idea:

http://www.food.gov.uk/images/pagefurniture/ewplatelargefeb10.jpg

The problem with a calorie controlled diet is that you do need to make sure that you are eating a range of foods. Just counting calories will not provide a balanced diet as you could eat 4 Mars Bars a day and lose weight - dont think you would be very healthy though!!

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My wife told me she was going on a diet. I told her that really didn't need to as really suits being chubby. Didn't speak to me for days after that, dunno why. A guy can't give his wife a compliment these days.

 

Anyways, she ended up going to Slimming World (Slimming World - because you're amazing) and achieving her target weight quite readily. More importantly, she hasn't put it back on again because they give you a sensible diet plan that you can stick to. As Witch says, trouble with crash diets like the Cambridge is that they are not really sustainable and you end putting the weight back on.

 

Wife's talking to me again now and even I'm on a diet (well, I'm on two actually - you don't get enough to eat on one do you?)

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I used an online nutrition/calorie tracker for 2 years back in uni, to gain weight. Worked well. Nothing fancy needed from me, eating-wise, it just made sure I paid attention to my intake.
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If you talk to top sports people it really comes down to a basic burn more than you are putting in so it forces the body to burn fat. You still have to change your eating habits which is what all these slimming world places (yes, my wife goes to one) educate you to do but that alone will not do it. You have to up the rate at which you burn the fat and reduce the amount you feed the engine...simple...the hardes bit I would think is the mental resolve to stay on track and not kid yourself you are doing the right things...its hard so all the best of luck.
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I had gestational diabetes when expecting my son and had to stick to a pretty strict diet. The upside was that I gained very little weight and my husband, who went on the diet too, lost a load of weight.

 

It was very easy and healthy... I was told to stick to "The rule of 5s"

- Less than 5% fat

- Less than 5% sugar

- More than 5% fibre

 

You end up reading a lot of packets, and bananas were off the menu.

 

I still use it now when reversing the effects of Christmas!

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Rabbie my situation is identical, however I started smoking at 10, when I left school I was 85 Kilos (although a rugby player physique - could do the 100m dash in 11.9 seconds). I joined a rugby team with my uni (big mistake) as we ended up going out for takeaways every night, drank every night and I piled on 35kgs whilst at uni over 3 years, but still had a decent physique, and it put me to 120kgs, I then gave up smoking at 22 when I found out I was going to become a dad and piled on a further 15kgs as my appetite became voracious, I was famished ALL the time, and I got depressed after my ex split and added another 5 kilos. It hit home when I got on the scales and realised just how much I did put on!!

 

The rugby team and giving smoking caused me to put most of the weight on, however I have made a pledge that by next new year (the one from 2011 - 2012) I will be back to my leaving school weight (or within 10 kilos of it!).

 

I do martial arts 3-4 times a week and cycle a tonne but its coming off slowly, which I suppose is the best way!

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I know how to do stones and lbs...

 

Left school at 13 stone 4lbs

End of uni I was 18 stone 10lbs

After giving up smoking and when found out I was gonna be a dad - 21 stone 3lbs

After depression - 22 stone

 

Now at 20 stone 6lbs

 

 

That better for you witch?

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I had the same problem, suddenly realised that I was much larger than I thought I was and needed to loose weight. It's easy to want a quick fix but you really need to make a lifestyle change and tbh you're almost there, realization is a massive step (I hate that statement but it’s true). In the end I didn't have to change much I just stopped drinking in the week (save that joy for the weekend) cut out the takeaways and avoided snacking or just eat fruit or fig rolls between meals. I then started going to spinning classes at the gym I was a bit sceptical at first but a mate recommended it it really is one of the best ways to get lots of exercise in fast and as it's instructor lead I don't get chance to slack which is exactly what I need. At 30 mins a session it doesn't consume allot of time either. 5 aside footy is also great if you get stuck in.

The most important thing to remember is that there really isn't a 'good' healthy quick fix and any 'quick' fixes won't last last without lifestyle change.

 

That worked for me and that's all I can offer.

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I can recommend dysentery as an excellent means of losing weight - I spent five months in Asia in 1988 and contracted both types (amoebic and bacilliary) twice. Was 12 stone to begin with and came back to the UK weighing 9. Ah, the things you do when you're young....
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Thanks for all the replies.. I guess the dominos I had last night hasnt helped things much..

 

Started a Saturday morning boxing session as well now, nothing major just a bit of sparring and some cardio work.. Right next to the beach, jumped right in for a swim after I finished..

 

(Sorry for the Kilos witch, Its all they do over here.. I guess Im about over 15 stone? I was 13ish when I left school, 14 after stopping smoking.)

 

Im not sure about the whole 'calorie' thing.. How does it work? Are they printed on the side of packets?

 

How many calories should I be haivng?

 

For the last few weeks Ive been havnig this:

 

Breakfast:

 

A Red or Normal Grapefruit

250ml ish glass of 100% pure OJ (which seems to have a lot of sugar??)

 

Lunch:

 

White bread or a small french stick Sandwhich of light cheese, lettuce and tomato

Orange or an apple

 

 

dinner:

 

An 2 egg omlette, with tomato / red onion / bit light cheese

An Orange

 

I know I should really cut out the cheese, but Im a cheese addict! Ive started buying the light stuff, not sure if that makes much more of a difference.

 

I only bought 6 beers on friday (instead of the usual case) and a bottle of Glenlivet, which Ill have polished off by this evening.. Im guessing whisky is better for me than beer?

 

Heading back to Ecosse for xmas, so thats my target date for getting sorted.

 

If I get the job Im hoping for, its 8KM from where I live (5 miles witch) so I think Ill just get a bike and cycle that every day..

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Never appologies for using SI units RB, the scientists of the world and anyone not in the UK or US will back you up on that.

 

As for the diet I don't have direct experience but indirect experience from people around me loosing weight suggests that the key is to keep it achivable. I have just talked to one of them and this is pretty much the gist of what their nutritionalist had to say. Don't skimp lots on meals as it will put your system into calorie retention mode because it senses calloric stress and will imediatly start to stockpile as fat. Eat smaller meals maybe een five smaller helpings during the day.

 

I would be looking at a fuller breakfast, it really is one of the most important meals of the day as it kick starts your systems to process food and run normally, I would suggest cerial with fruit, keep in mind that the average desert bowl today is three times the volume of plates from even 50 years ago so read the packet to see how much you actually need rather than filling the bowl. By cerial I mean stuff that your average stone age culture could easily identify.

 

Everones digestion system is basicly unchanged from hundreds and thousands of years ago, it is less skilled at dealing with new technology than your average user as such the best way to keep it hapy is to eat stuff that you can easily identify, basic vegitables, fruit, meat, grain etc. Also drink lots of water which helps everything move along and work at optimal efficiency. A balance of food types is also important and it looks like you may be skipping out on a bit of grain in the above example. The other thing is the less ingredients on packaged food the better, the more funky chemical names in the list the more likely it is to confuse your digestive system.

 

You want to go for foods with more complex sugars in them like fresh fruit and vegetables, brown bread is better if you can stoamch it because it contains more complex nutrients in it which your system will actually have to work at digesting. White bread is massivly processed and chemicly is almost digested before you stick it in your mouth so takes no effort on the part of your digestion system.

 

Some recommended stuff was:

Eggs chicken tuna - protene

Plenty of water, processing easier

More whole grains, nut/grain bar for snacks (one in NZ is "Be natural - Trail Bars or Flemings - Body plus)

two fruit three vegitables every day

 

Hope that is helpful and good luck.

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Cheers!

 

When Im at work I drink a shitload of Tea (maybe 6+ large mugs a day), would the caffine have a dertimental effect, or would the water from that count?

 

Brown bread is no problem I can do that. I find wholemeal, or whatever its called with the seeds, gives me really bad heartburn/indigestion.

 

I do enjoy weetbix, would a couple of them in the morning do for breakfast?

 

Is rice good for you? I could do a chicken and veg stir fry I guess with rice for dinner..

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I think the primary concern with tea would be the sugar content depending on how much/little you have, green tea is apparently better (darker the better) and was acually recommended as a good thing (with limited or better no sugar). The water from that should count.

 

I dislike the wholemeal bread too, it is better as it is closer to the original ingredients but there is no point in eating it if you hate it, brown bread is still better than white bread and you have got to still be able to enjoy your food otherwise it will be far more difficult to stick to it.

 

Weetbix should be fine sans the sugar again, if it needs to be sweeter add fruit or light yougart to make it more tasty.

 

Rice is also good, brown instead of white as again brown is less processed, they actually recomend that as a better option than pasta which is highly processed.

 

Another thing that I was just reminded of was sleep, get at least eight hours a night and that should help matters as it helps keep things working as they should.

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I really dont have a sweet tooth so I dont have sugar in my tea / cereal or anything. I am more of a savoury person, so pies / crisps (aka chips?) / etc were more of my weekness... Only chocolate I eat is a Selection Box on xmas day..

 

My other problem is im really lazy as well.. Cooking a meal from scratch seems to take me so long, I guess I just need to learn disipline...

 

I thikn also perhaps if I plan dinners for the week it wuold make me more strict.. previously Id just open the fridge, see nothing obvious, and phone in a pizza / curry / both. I used to blame it on working long hours, but I dont really think thats a good enough excuse..

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Nothing to stop you from cooking a big batch of stuff and chucking it into the fridge/freezer so its easy, that was another thing that was done I beleive. Thick soup or something like that constructed from fresh ingredients then chucked in the fridge and heated/eaten over several days.

 

Personally I am shocking with stuff like that and will happily just order in far more than I should.

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Ive tried that before... I just end up eating it all in the one night!

 

Soup is something I am a master of, and something I guess I should do more often..

 

Do appettite suppressent drugs / hypnosis work? I guess if I didnt feel hungry then I wouldnt eat..

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I think that they both may work in certain situations, I would say the hypnosis is likely to be more healthy. Have you tried the whole, wait for 10 minutes after eating before going back for more. This is also where the less processed food comes in as it keeps your digestive system busy longer. This may also be interesting even if on a bit of a tangent Heribert Watzke: The brain in your gut | Video on TED.com .

 

If you are considering stuff like that I would go and have a chat to you GP as they are likely to have some good input on methods and means. The drugs can be quite dodgey as they use all sorts of different chemical means to achive their goals some of which can be less than good for you so I'd recommend getting input as above before considering them seriously.

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