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Hi all, is anyone using virtual desktops if so what software platform did you go for, and many current desktops are in use against servers?

 

I been asked to look in to the possibility of movinf some or all users over to virtual desktops, with the aim of reducing cost, setup, deployments etc..

 

Many Thanks

 

Eric

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Yes we started using Wyse WSM for some months now. we run 2 physical servers that can support 140 workstations (if 2 both servers keep running). but for redundancy we have 70 now. Untill now we have good experience with this solution. Its great for educational purposes.

 

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What's the cost of a wyse terminal as opposed to a PC?

 

You're looking at anywhere between £300 and £1200 for a Wyse thin client. Bear in mind that they use a lot less electricity than a full fat PC. eg. 14.1W for an average device, it adds up to a lot of cash savings that way...

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You're looking at anywhere between £300 and £1200 for a Wyse thin client. Bear in mind that they use a lot less electricity than a full fat PC. eg. 14.1W for an average device, it adds up to a lot of cash savings that way...

 

Crikey you will scare them off!!

You can get them from as little as£180 for good HDX compatibility as well

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For Wyse??
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No - but if youre a school, why are you looking at Wyse anyway?

 

You need to be more cost effective and there are so many other manufacturers that specialise in Schools at a lower price point.

10zig, DevonIT.

 

Fantastic units.

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No - but if youre a school, why are you looking at Wyse anyway?

 

You need to be more cost effective and there are so many other manufacturers that specialise in Schools at a lower price point.

10zig, DevonIT.

 

Fantastic units.

 

The question posed was 'What's the cost of a wyse terminal as opposed to a PC?'. Not 'what's the price of a thin client device as opposed to a PC?'...

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How are people finding video performance on their virtual desktops? Has anyone tried Xen, KVM or any other free / open source virtualisation solution for desktop virtualisation? As far as I can make out, what paid-for solutions offer over the free ones are:

 

- Support for hardware graphics acceleration / client-side usage of graphics hardware

- Memory over-commit (or similar techniques) that allow you to squeeze more VMs on to a server, making better use of RAM

- Template-based / read-only VM images (which I consider unimportant as deployment of desktop OSes, virtual or physical, is a solved problem and disk storage is cheap)

 

Is that correct - are the above features only available in paid-for VM solutions?

 

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David Hicks

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If reduced cost, setup and deployment time are important factors....allow me to introduce you to NComputing Virtualization Kits.

The video's pretty Gouda but the message is simple. If you're interested in these let me know.

 

Joe

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Don't forget Axel, they've been pretty solid and relatively cheap compared with the first batch of Wyse devices.

 

Also remember you aren't going to get a great deal of 'media' from them.

 

Edit* That video scares me Joe (bad experiences with the N word)

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The question posed was 'What's the cost of a wyse terminal as opposed to a PC?'. Not 'what's the price of a thin client device as opposed to a PC?'...

 

Oops, my bad!!!

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Don't forget Axel, they've been pretty solid and relatively cheap compared with the first batch of Wyse devices.

 

I would add my support for Axel terminals. We don't have a huge number on the go, but we'd originally looked at several different terminals, including Wyse, and decided the Axel M80 was a great little box. Easy to set up, small size, good performance, and inexpensive at around the £150 mark. Also came supplied with a standard mounting bracket to attach it to the back of an LCD monitor. Axel themselves provided us with good support too.

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Nah the ncomputing solutions have a bit of a reputation for:

 

install ncomputing software

install windows update which breaks ncomputing software

wait for ncomputing to release a fix and install the fix

 

Rinse and repeat the above 3 instructions for ever !!!!

 

Ben

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Nah the ncomputing solutions have a bit of a reputation for:

 

install ncomputing software

install windows update which breaks ncomputing software

wait for ncomputing to release a fix and install the fix

 

Rinse and repeat the above 3 instructions for ever !!!!

 

Ben

:o

 

Thats about right !!

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If you have VMware already and that will be the shared storage too then yes View is going to be a good option.

View 4.5 has a great option of offline working too, not sure if that would be of use.

 

The PCoIP protocol enables you to delivery good HD to the desktop, and the pricing structure for schools is very attractive.

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We run about 70 xendesktops off one server on a mixtrure of Axel M80 and Wyse xenith looking at doing 100 more when my new servers and SAN arrive. Great for everyday use , not great for lots of Media or high graphics stuff in Art and DT. Hugh power saving. By the time its all in place 22 servers and 170 desktops will be on 3 physical boxes with a San for the images to sit on
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We run about 70 xendesktops off one server on a mixtrure of Axel M80 and Wyse xenith looking at doing 100 more when my new servers and SAN arrive. Great for everyday use , not great for lots of Media or high graphics stuff in Art and DT. Hugh power saving. By the time its all in place 22 servers and 170 desktops will be on 3 physical boxes with a San for the images to sit on

 

what's the spec of the server hosting your 70 ? and the spec of the server which will allow you do 100 more ie RAM, cpu cores etc ? I presume you have this box dedicated to virtual desktop hosting.

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we have a Dell R710with 74Gb Ram in and Nehalem quad-core Cpu. new servers have 2 x R810 with 104Gb and 8-core Xeon X7560 coming to share the load using xenserver and will load balence desktops and servers accross the lot
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I was speaking to the IT guy at the school my son goes to, they had a demo of both N-Computing and SoftXpand. They went for the SoftXpand solution as each workstation was directly connected to the onboard graphics cards giving a much better graphics performance.
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Nah the ncomputing solutions have a bit of a reputation for:

 

install ncomputing software

install windows update which breaks ncomputing software

wait for ncomputing to release a fix and install the fix

 

Rinse and repeat the above 3 instructions for ever !!!!

 

Ben

 

With regards to Joe, see above. ;)

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We're using XenDesktop and Wyse Xenith clients here. Around 100 desktops so far with plans to scale that in the next year or two. Working really well so far. We only paid around £200/unit for the Wyse Xenith, and that was with a premium because it was a new unit in high demand because of it being a "zero client" for XenDesktop. The Wyse C10 was around £170ish
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