Geek_of_HeathMount Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Morning all I'm after an exchange expert as we're in the process of moving from 2003 to 2007 and there's lots of things that keep breaking. My gut feeling is to wipe the 2007 install and start a fresh but I want to talk to some one before I do. Thanks guys
pooley Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 What have you done so far, what errors are you getting?
zag Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Are you doing an in place upgrade or a parallel one? I had a few problems with mail delivery over 2 servers when I did this.
Geek_of_HeathMount Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 Hi guys just to confirm a few things These are the instructions i followed Transitioning from Exchange 2000/2003 to Exchange Server 2007 Part 1 Transitioning from Exchange 2000/2003 to Exchange Server 2007 Part 2 Transitioning from Exchange 2000/2003 to Exchange Server 2007 Part 3 1. We have 2 exchange servers 2003 & 2007, so we are doing this in parallel 2. I have four issues which i'm concerned about a. Outgoing email is now starting to build in the 2003 queue b. The Outlook Anywhere doesn't work as the settings have not gone across and i don't know why c. When opening the management console on 2007 it tells me that i need to turn off the compression for the 3 default exchange sites using the IIS manager. The problem is when i do this it then tells me that the relevant back office file is missing. d. My test mail account on 2007 can not send email Hope this helps
zag Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Yes I had the same problems with delivery mail, I seem to remember the exchange testing tool was very useful in diagnosing problems with mail flow. In the end I just kept my 2003 server going though, it doesn't seem any different.
rh91uk Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Are the ports open on the firewall for the new server? Is it the same or different ip to your exch2003 box?
Geek_of_HeathMount Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 The ports are the same as the old exchange server The the firewall knows nothing about the new server. I was under impression that everything went via the routing group and therefore went via the existing smtp connector?
DanSpeed Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) We had an issue when moving our exchange 2007 system onto R2, problems with routing mail. we spend hours checking ports/firewals etc. we discovered(sorry i cant find the link again) that 2007 isnt supported on R2, you either need to upgrade exchange to 2010 or migrate to a windows server 2008 box hope this helps Dan Edited December 4, 2009 by DanSpeed
Geek_of_HeathMount Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 I'm happy to blow 2007 and MS server 2008 R2 away. But will i damage Exchange 2003 in the process???
zag Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Our 2003 server was fine and not effected when I've tested this a few times.
AIT Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Moving From Exchange 2003 to 2007 can be a fairly easy process. We have done this several times. We have also moved from 2003 to 2010 and 2007 to 2010. We are George Spencer School and also run Advanced IT Services. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions regarding your move. [email protected] P.s. I would recommend going straight to 2010
Geek_of_HeathMount Posted December 8, 2009 Author Posted December 8, 2009 thanks for all the help guys, but i even had an exchange expert in and he couldn't figure what went wrong. so we're rolling back to 2003
AIT Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 thanks for all the help guys, but i even had an exchange expert in and he couldn't figure what went wrong. so we're rolling back to 2003 Noooo... exchange 2007 is far far far better... coudl you tell me in a bit more detail the problem so i can have a think... or even where is your school?
rh91uk Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe some screenshots would do good, too? I don't see the logic about pernamently moving back to 2k3. Tried a clean exch 2007 install on a clean 2k8 (not R2!!) install? Is it virtualised? we have a virtualised setup here and it's fine, but I have heard it run into problems on vm's.
AIT Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe some screenshots would do good, too? I don't see the logic about pernamently moving back to 2k3. Tried a clean exch 2007 install on a clean 2k8 (not R2!!) install? Is it virtualised? we have a virtualised setup here and it's fine, but I have heard it run into problems on vm's. The only time i have ever hit problmes is if a 2003 machine has been taken off without actually removing it. Even then it isnt that hard to clean it up manually.
Disease Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Is there an easy upgrade path from 2003 to 2010?
jamesreedersmith Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 No youd have to migrate but thats easy enough i you are moving to a new server(virtual or physical) just not the same box - although thats possible but a bit more long winded.
DanSpeed Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 im affraid there is no inline upgrade option, you have to migrate the mailboxes to another server
Disease Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I have a new server for my email, my current server is EX2003 with a single core 3gig Xeon with 2gb ram and it's really struggling now. I have purchased a new server with 2 2.33 Quad Core Xeons and 8 GB ram and was going to put 2007 on it and transition over but now I am thinking I might as well just make the move to 2010.
AIT Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 im affraid there is no inline upgrade option, you have to migrate the mailboxes to another server To clarify, you have to build a new server and move the mailboxes. You cannot do an in-place upgrade, but 2010 will co-exist with SP2 perfectly fine. However one thing to note. You really need a 2008 domain controller (2003 still works) just 2008 is more efficient and outlook connectivity is vastly improved.
AIT Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) I have a new server for my email, my current server is EX2003 with a single core 3gig Xeon with 2gb ram and it's really struggling now. I have purchased a new server with 2 2.33 Quad Core Xeons and 8 GB ram and was going to put 2007 on it and transition over but now I am thinking I might as well just make the move to 2010. A move straight to 2010 would be advisable. however i would vastly increae the ammonth of ram required. Exchange 2010 server role Multiple roles (combinations of Hub Transport, Client Access, and Mailbox server roles) 10 GB 10 GB plus 3-30MB per mailbox (4 core server) 14 GB plus 3-30MB per mailbox (8 core server) I would also seriously inspect hard drive configuration and mail database setup. Edited December 8, 2009 by AIT
Disease Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 However one thing to note. You really need a 2008 domain controller (2003 still works) just 2008 is more efficient and outlook connectivity is vastly improved. A move straight to 2010 would be advisable. however i would vastly increae the ammonth of ram required. Exchange 2010 server role Multiple roles (combinations of Hub Transport, Client Access, and Mailbox server roles) 10 GB 10 GB plus 3-30MB per mailbox (4 core server) 14 GB plus 3-30MB per mailbox (8 core server) I would also seriously inspect hard drive configuration and mail database setup. I plan to upgrade all my servers to 2008 over the course of next year, from what I understand you can do a straight upgrade from Server 2003 to 2008. Thanks for the advice I will certainly take it onboard.
AIT Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I plan to upgrade all my servers to 2008 over the course of next year, from what I understand you can do a straight upgrade from Server 2003 to 2008. Thanks for the advice I will certainly take it onboard. You can do an inline upgrade from 2003 to 2008. (im not really a fan of doing this) And I certainly wouldn’t try it for DC's.
Disease Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 You can do an inline upgrade from 2003 to 2008. (im not really a fan of doing this) And I certainly wouldn’t try it for DC's. I thought in order to have a 2008 Domain controller you have to upgrade all cuurent 2003 DC's to 2008. I am sure that when I went to install a new DC using 2008 it said that I could not do it until all current DC's were 2008, I am probably wrong in that but I am sure that's what it said. Anyway I seem to have partly hijacked this thread sorry.
AIT Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I thought in order to have a 2008 Domain controller you have to upgrade all cuurent 2003 DC's to 2008. I am sure that when I went to install a new DC using 2008 it said that I could not do it until all current DC's were 2008, I am probably wrong in that but I am sure that's what it said. Anyway I seem to have partly hijacked this thread sorry. If that were the case how could you install the first 2008 domain controller? You would have to install 2008 server add it to the domain as a domain controller this would involve upgrading the forest and upgrading domain. Domain prep tools. once that one is installed you can gradually go round replacing the remaining dc's. However once one is installed it will automatically upgrade the adm files to admx. Hope this helps Phil
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