Outpost Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 Hi, I have been told I can completely overhaul the schools network and basically start from scratch. Does anyone have 2008 with XP clients and if they do does it present any problems, researching around it seems group policies can be the main sticking point. Those that went with Vista was it a major learning curve for staff and students? Cheers
6Foot2 Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 We have 2008 at the server and XP at the workstations. Once you get your head around the policies and their settings it is not too bad. We have broken our Group Policies up: Desktop/Folder Redirection Banned/Allowed Apps IE7 settings BGInfo Settings etc. We did find that we had to apply the Group Policies in a specific order otherwise some of them would not work. 1
leco Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 Still finding my way round and through the Group Policy maze. On the whole though, Server 2008 with XP workstations and laptops works juast as well as Server 2003 (which we also still have). Next move will be to Windows 7 thus missing Vista, but that won't be for a while I don't think. 1
FN-GM Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 We are running Server 2008 with XP & Vista clients. All works fine. The server 2008 group policy is pretty easy to get round unless your looking for one particular policy, that takes forever if you dont know where it is. The Server 2008 group policies are excellent, because of the new features we can get rid of allot of scripts. 1
Diello Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 2008 & XP and runs like a dream. No issues. Make sure you install the Group Policy Preferences Client Side Extensions on your XP clients so you can make sure of GPP in 2k8 - it's marvellous! 1
cookie_monster Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Have any of you upgraded your 2003 Active Directory to 2008 during your move? We'll be moving to 2008 this summer so I'm starting to plan the move, we'll also be using XP clients.
Diello Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 We did a 2003 ---> 2008 move in a test environment, and it worked OK. Though in the end we set it up as a new forest and did an ADMT migration.
cookie_monster Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Using ADMT migration did your new forest have to have a different name? I was thinking that running domain prep then adding a 2008 DC to the 2003 domain and moving all of the roles accross would be more straight forward. Edited May 5, 2009 by cookie_monster
FN-GM Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Have any of you upgraded your 2003 Active Directory to 2008 during your move? We'll be moving to 2008 this summer so I'm starting to plan the move, we'll also be using XP clients. We updated from 2003. It was originally a 2000 domain
Cools Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 if your real good.. then you can use one GP for the hole school.. like me.. and use the target users settings.. 1GP for all sweet...
dhicks Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Does anyone have 2008 with XP clients Yes. does it present any problems No. -- David Hicks
FN-GM Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 So you updated from 2000 to 2003 then to 2008? I should have put it better June 2000 - Windows Server 2000 Domain built June 2003 - Upgraded to Windows Server 2003 June 2008 - Upgraded to Windows Server 2008
cookie_monster Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 @ FN-GM - so when you upgraded did all of you GP's convert ok and did all of your clients pick them up and carry on as though nothing had changed?
FN-GM Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Yep worked a treat. Myself i have done 2 2003 > 2008 upgrades with no problems. 1
SYNACK Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 We have gone Vista and once the staff got over their initial fear responce they actually found it just as easy if not easier to use than XP. Same with Office 2007, I had people comming and telling me about these cool new features that they had found in office 2007 which had in fact existed since office 2000 but were buried so deep that no one had found them. The students had absoloutly no issue migrating across and most barely seemed to notice. Most had already had it at home for a while and wondered why the school was so far behind. The others picked it up almost instantly.
cookie_monster Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 I don't think most of our users would find a switch to Vista to be a problem the problem is that allot of our PC's wouldn't run it, 3 GHz P4's with only 512Mb RAM and so on and it didn't even work that well with 1Gb. Windows 7 seems to be a big improvement in this area it's running very well on my NC10 so fingers crossed. Most of our users that have come accross Office 2007 have been horrified though so i'm not looking forward to that move.
Diello Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 Using ADMT migration did your new forest have to have a different name? I was thinking that running domain prep then adding a 2008 DC to the 2003 domain and moving all of the roles accross would be more straight forward. Yes, you have to create a new forest with a different name. Remembering that the NetBIOS name must be different to for ADMT to work. Transitioning your current domain across should be pretty straight forward. Also remember to raise your Forest and Domain Functional Level to Server 2008 once your last W2k3 DC has been changed. The main reason we did an ADMT move was because of various non-MS schema updates that had been done etc., they'd even had CC3 once and had those schema entries, so we felt a clean start was best.
cookie_monster Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 Our AD is pretty clean so I think we'll be looking to upgrade, I also don't really want to have to rename the domain.
Mr.Ben Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 if your real good.. then you can use one GP for the hole school.. like me.. and use the target users settings.. 1GP for all sweet... One Group policy to rule them all, one Group policy to find them, one group policy to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.......? I would love that, but I have too many groups that need subtle differences!
OverWorked Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 Also, make sure your XP clients have Group Policy Preference Client Side Extensions for Windows XP (KB943729) installed. It allows them to be managed by GP preferences, making things like mapping drives, desktop shortcuts, IE settings a lot easier to manage.
FN-GM Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 Also, make sure your XP clients have Group Policy Preference Client Side Extensions for Windows XP (KB943729) installed. It allows them to be managed by GP preferences, making things like mapping drives, desktop shortcuts, IE settings a lot easier to manage. If your fully up to day with WSUS you will be fine
cookie_monster Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 Speaking of WSUS that and WDS could both be fun to move to new servers.
mac_shinobi Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 Yes. Does it present any issues etc etc No. -- David Hicks Has anyone had any issues with printers on a print server pushing them out to 32 bit clients assuming the server is 64 bit ? If not have you got a guide on what you did step by step ?
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