Duke Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 During the upload and patching phase it doesn't really matter but obviously the reboot phase kinda of breaks everything! I can live with that, no worse than rebooting a Windows file server for Windows Updates!
RobFuller Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 I still haven't had an answer from SUN regarding backup other than NDMP is recommended but not which software or how to go around it. There is some talk here 24 September 2008 Zmanda Team Blog but nothing to get going with.
Ric_ Posted July 22, 2009 Author Posted July 22, 2009 I still haven't had an answer from SUN regarding backup other than NDMP is recommended but not which software or how to go around it. There is some talk here 24 September 2008 Zmanda Team Blog but nothing to get going with. Phil Lawrence has a list. I spied it on his little presentation
Soulfish Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 Having a look into Zmanda seems that sun are recomending it for a few other things (one of them being MySQL loads running on a S7000!), so it seems to be one of the backup solutions they're at least looking at and mindful of. Just shot an email across to them for some pricing info. Really like the look of Zmanda, and it seems that overall it could be much much lower cost for us then a BE or similar based solution. Need to dig and see if it supports NDMP though
Duke Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 Zmanda does look quite good. Anyone know of support for VMware/ESX? As Ric_ pointed out, there's not really such a thing as industry standard, but Backup Exec does support things like a VMware agent as well as all the expectations of Exchange, MS SQL, etc. Unrelated question - I just removed permissions on a file on my 7410 then added just administrator permissions, but for some reason this permission didn't add when I looked at the file. As such, I now have a file with no permissions on it at all and I don't have permissions to add permissions, or to delete the file! Any ideas how to get rid of it? Cheers, Chris
john Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 a list! What else is on the magic list, is de-dupe on said list
Duke Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 Hey all, I had a disk fail on the J4400 attached to our 7410 last night, which is a bit unfortunate as we haven't had it very long, but I'll write it off so far as a random occurrence. Quick question: When replacing the drive, do you need to offline it via the GUI first? It's already got an amber 'Action Required' light on it, but not the blue 'Safe To Remove' light. According to the J4400 manual: Caution – Never remove a disk drive unless the ID/Status LED is blue. If you need to remove multiple disk drives, always remove and replace one disk drive at a time. However according to the 7410 manual (I'm not sure if this refers to disks in the 7410 alone or the J4400 too): Offline the disk - This option is only available for disks that are part of a configured storage pool (including the system pool). Offlining a disk prevents the system from reading or writing to it. Faulted devices are already avoided, so this option should only be required if a disk is exhibiting performance problems that do not result in pathological failure. The disk is arriving in the next 4 hours so... can anyone help? May thanks! Chris
teejay Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 If it is showing as failed you can remove it and replace it hot. Funny, I had one fail in one of my 7110's yesterday. 1
cookie_monster Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 Oh no I could do without the Dell experience all over again. We bought two Poweredge servers a while back both with three disk RAID, within 6 months all 6 disks had failed and been replaced with different manufacturer parts.
Duke Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 Oh no I could do without the Dell experience all over again. We bought two Poweredge servers a while back both with three disk RAID, within 6 months all 6 disks had failed and been replaced with different manufacturer parts. Ouch... Our Dells have been really good, 12 Dell servers with 2 to 6 disks in each and we've only had 3 HDD failures in nearly 4 years. Replacement disks have been provided NBD under warranty with no issues. teejay - So no other interaction required, it's just ready to remove if it's failed and will start to rebuild automatically when the new one is put in? It's just a little confusing as Dell always asked me to offline the disk in the RAID controller before pulling it out, then it automatically onlines itself when the new drive is inserted. Many thanks guys, Chris
teejay Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 Just done ours: On the web console, go to Maintenance, click on show details under the picture of the storage array. You should now have a list of hard drives and the failed one should be highlighted in red on the picture and have an orange exclamation mark next to it. On that hard drive click on the little light to make the light blink so you know for definite you are pulling out the right hard drive. Swap drive over. Go back to web console and back in maintenance, show details. CLick on the orange exclamation mark, click on the Active Problems link and then click on the mark repaired button.
Duke Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 Cool, cheers mate. Just got off the phone with Phil at Sun and he confirmed what you said too, just take it out once it's failed. For those of you who are interested, quota management on the S7000 is also coming along too, although it's not quite at the FSRM level yet. Looks like the S7000 are still under really strong development and Oracle are extremely interested so it's all good news! Cheers, Chris
cookie_monster Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 Replacement disks have been provided NBD under warranty with no issues. Thanksfully Dell service was great someone came out and replaced the disks next day every time but I still had no fingernails by the end of the 6 months.
Duke Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 Thanksfully Dell service was great someone came out and replaced the disks next day every time but I still had no fingernails by the end of the 6 months. I can imagine, bet that was a bit of a nightmare! I've just done the Sun drive swap out and I have to give these guys credit for doing such a good job. ASR was automatically raised when the drive failed last night, phoned them about 08:30 this morning to get the case moving and confirm my details (first support call requiring our address, was previously down as the distributors address). Within two hours I had the replacement drive, swapping it out was completely painless and a lot simpler than Dell (Sun drives come with the drive caddy, you don't have to take it off the old one and swap it over like you do with Dell), and now I just have to send the failed drive back which is better than the delivery driver waiting around for me to give him the dead drive to return. Kudos to Sun for good support! Chris
Ric_ Posted July 29, 2009 Author Posted July 29, 2009 @cookie_monster: I think it is pure coincidence about the disks... Duke's failed disk is a 3.5" one from a JBOD whilst Teejay's is a 2.5" disk. Totally different parts.
cookie_monster Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 @cookie_monster: I think it is pure coincidence about the disks... Duke's failed disk is a 3.5" one from a JBOD whilst Teejay's is a 2.5" disk. Totally different parts. Excellent Kudos to Sun for good support! I'll second that, these are the kind of stories I like to hear.
Duke Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 Whoo, triple-disk failure protection coming to the S7000! Sun tripling RAID protection ? The Register Chris
john Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 I was just reading that same article I would read it but the LEA say its naughty Time to turn on the other NIC in the PC As for drive failings they are hard drives they fail too easily anyway tbh. Good to hear sun support is good and no caddy messing, then again with HP I've never caddy messed sounds like Dell are just cheapskates
Duke Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 Question time again... Has anyone had any unreadable/corrupt files on their SAN? I've got a file that was put on my 7410 last week along with a load of other similar files, but this one is completely inaccessible. Windows sees the file, but I can't delete it, rename it, move it, view it or get the properties on it. Windows just tells me the path cannot be found and Backup Exec fails when trying to back it up. Normally I'd go directly to the server the file is hosted on and there's usually a way to delete it locally, but as we have no local root access to the S7000 filesystems this isn't possible. I thought ZFS was supposed to avoid these problems, anyone got any ideas how to fix it? Many thanks, Chris
cookie_monster Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 I have the same issue with a folder that I can't delete.
Duke Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 I have the same issue with a folder that I can't delete. I've run into a few issues recently (error on a replacement HDD, ASR always re-registering after update, backup queries) so I've submitted a couple of cases and I'll let you know if I hear anything. Chris
Soulfish Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 I've run into a few issues recently (error on a replacement HDD, ASR always re-registering after update, backup queries) so I've submitted a couple of cases and I'll let you know if I hear anything. Chris I've noticed that ASR reregsitering problem the last couple of days. Seems that whenever I reboot the 7110 we've got it's reregistering its self.
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