webman Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Just an FYI.... http://forum.xatrix.org/viewforum.php?f=8 Came across this forum, seems to be a few pupils who like to discuss the security of their school network. May be useful if you visit this every now and then and check the users' locations and/or profiles if you suspect anything.
Simcfc73 Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Pesky Kids. Gotta look out for the kids dismantling the PC's first make a boot disc, then shut down the computer, open the case, pull the bios battery, wait 20 sec, reinsert battery, close case, turn on computer hit del or f1 to enter the bios make sure the boot from floppy is enabled save and exit insert your boot disc and reboot once in dos ... cd\progra~1 dir look for either hypertechnologies or faronics delete the appropriate one deltree hyper~1 or deltree faronics
Geoff Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 You might want to consider buying computers with chassis alarms. If someone opens the case without a key it trips and the computer wont boot.
webman Posted June 6, 2006 Author Posted June 6, 2006 Yep, some cases have holes for padlocks as well that will deter casual pupils who think they can get away with opening cases. But there's nothing better than making sure they're supervised at all times.
CyberNerd Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 we just removed the disks and boot them from the network
GrumbleDook Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 CCTV .... with camera mounted TASER might help ....
ChrisC Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Luckily, I don't think many of the kids here are smart enough to try that sort of stuff, mind you we've got it locked down pretty heavy. The problem is, there's always a way.... Chris
Geoff Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Yeah, removing the floppy/CD would be another solution. Although that doesn't help much if they are able to USB boot?
ChrisC Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Then again, locking down the bios and keeping them supervised from opening the cases would then help that?? The main problem is supervision! Chris
Geoff Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Well the original example post avoids your bios restrictions. That's the whole point of popping the case and ripping the battery out.
ChrisC Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Again, supervision would stop that (hopefully)! But they can be crafty buggers Chris
tarquel Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 or lock the machines away works for me [where possible naturally ] i weigh up overheating in a cupboard over them vandalising them [and removing the product key / serial number stickers] Nath.
NetworkGeezer Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Yeah, removing the floppy/CD would be another solution. Although that doesn't help much if they are able to USB boot? What's your secret Geoff? You always seem very sanguine when it comes to BIOS security.
tarquel Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 http://forum.xatrix.org/viewtopic.php?t=320 This kinda stuff is irritating but looking at the last poster, if they think teacher are the admin's, then we are safe... providing that we do give the teachers admin roles/permissions. Logic to our madness Nath.
Gatt Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Just as well i have enforced Deny All to the Internet except legitimate school resource sites (vetted by me after a teacher submits the url) Next task over summer is to remove all CD/DVD/Floppy drives
Geoff Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 What's your secret Geoff? You always seem very sanguine when it comes to BIOS security. Lateral thinking.
Gatt Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 thinking of wiring up 240volts to the case if the buggers try and get in it Obviously with an off switch case I need to get into them
Gatt Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Someone want to enlighten me on this?? or if your school is stupid like mine, press tab when they are entering the user id and password if they have an interactive white board on :?:
Ric_ Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 You have to love thin client devices Like to see them pop the case off one of them without being spotted
E1uSiV3 Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 You have to love thin client devices Like to see them pop the case off one of them without being spotted Yeah and its not going to get them very far either is it lol
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