rolfea Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Has anyone done it before? I'm looking for a half demanding task to do at home and I didn't know how hard building a Water Cooled PC is compared with building a normal PC. I don't actually have a reason to have a Water Cooled PC either, I don't tend to over clock or do anything graphically demanding. But then this is because I have been scared to experiment. It would be nice to learn over clocking and starting playing games with stupid graphics. So yes, how challenging is it to build a Water Cooled PC and how expensive does it tend to be?
jamesb Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 This site seems to give a fairly reasonable discussion on the whole thing: PC water cooling basics I wouldn't have thought its too hard at all though, since essentially you're building a normal PC, but cooling it with water rather than a fan. The components are available, and I'd guess you might be looking at most at a couple of hundred more than building a standard PC. Never actually tried it myself though so I could be completely off the mark.
Butters Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Best bet is to read up and with water cooling because you can open up a whole can of worms if your not careful. Leaks or bubbles in your loop can spell disaster for your components.
ddcmp Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 RTFM is the best advice i can give, ive built a few back in the days they first came out......the novelty soon wears off, i even built myself a PC filled with Vegetable Oil!!! oooh those were the days, now if i even buy a hard drive the missus goes berserk!
K.C.Leblanc Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Water cooling is very last century, you need oil submersion.
CyberNerd Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Water cooling is very last century, you need oil submersion. liquid nitrogen ftw
SYNACK Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 liquid nitrogen ftw Don't you mean liquid helium FTW? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB0JodKgZ0A]YouTube - AMD Phenom II Overclocked to 6.5GHz - New World Record for 3DMark[/ame]
BaccyNet Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 :DI've currently got a watercooled computer as my main system (at home, wouldnt be allowed at work:p) Currently watercooled Intel Core2 processor and two ATI Radeon X1900's. It took ages to get the air out of the processor block, plus you do have to keep an eye on the water level (or liquid coolant if that is what you use) as it seems to go down even if there are no leaks:eek: Reason I did it was I wanted to see if I could, plus the number of fans I would have had is silly. Also you may want to find some kind of monitoring board/software/whatever to check that your pump is running or shutdown the computer if not. My computer BSOD'd the other day which resulted in the pump being switched off, that wasnt the greatest few seconds of my life:D If you want to ask any more questions or you want to see some pictures of what it took to do, let me know!
mac_shinobi Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Don't you mean liquid helium FTW? If you listen to the video clip its both !!! Liquid nitrogen to get it down to minus 190 or so and then the liquid helium to make the temp even lower.
Diello Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Also pay attention to this thread - an old one, but timeless Kramer and other members promoting water cooling- you have alot to answer - AVForums.com
Dodgex1 Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 You need to build TEC PC. Thermo Electric Cooling on a home machine is blatantly the way forward. - I have a water cooled PC. I like it, its very, very quiet. I've built a couple for friends aswell. I've got one at the minute with it built into the case, as in I bought it with a the pump and reservoir and a single loop pre built in with junctions built in to easily add extra water blocks on. With it being built in all the low coolant/blockage/stoppage alarm, flow meter, temp guage, fan speed controller is all their for you, all built into the case itself. Other big advantage is it came with a warranty (18months in this case) so if it leaks I'm actually covered for my pc parts. The case I've got with a single loop for the cpu in was 300quid. Tubing for another device is about 10 quid with connectors, decent waterblocks are between 30 and 250ish depending on what you are cooling, graphic card blocks are the most expensive, harder to set up efficiently if you are running SLI/CrossFire. You can buy water cooling kits to put into exsisting cases, with the all the bits needed. Usually they come with just a CPU block. You can also get totally self contained units that will fit in drivebays (usually two) which you can then just run the tubes off and fit whatever waterblock you've chose too. Then there's obviously the option of buying the parts separately, radiator, reservoir etc etc and fitting them all yourself. 200+ In my opinion for something thats worth using. Not difficult to set up really, its most difficult finding room for everything in your case. Just double check all the fittings before you put the water in. (Use a "coolant" by the way, its pretty much distilled water with extra techno rubbish thrown in sometimes, stops it getting mould on the tubes and stuff like that, will probably come with what ever kit you buy and you get it in pretty colours.)
rolfea Posted February 25, 2009 Author Posted February 25, 2009 might start saving my pennies to try build one then. My system at home is a few years old, its a nice system but nothing amazing these days. and atm, can't really afford liquid nitrogen OR liquid Helium.
Greenbeast Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Yeah i've been running water cooled for a couple of years now CPU, North bridge and GPU I suggest buying plenty of pipework and planning the system out properly before you start The pipe can be quite rigid and as such you want just the right amount for each jump between components It's worked well, i've only had one small leak which luckily was from quite low in the case and so pooled in the base but didn't get on any components. However for this reason i won't leave it running unattended (definately when out of the house but even overnight if i can help it)
rolfea Posted March 3, 2009 Author Posted March 3, 2009 I've saved my pennies, yes that was quick. I love pay day. I have about £700, do you have any websites good for watercooling kits, not only explaining what and how, but also where to buy. I usually use Scan for everything but they don't seem to have a huge amount of stuff
mossj Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 oil submersion ftw!buy fish tank, put computer in (minus hard drive) and your done
rolfea Posted March 3, 2009 Author Posted March 3, 2009 oil submersion ftw!buy fish tank, put computer in (minus hard drive) and your done Or not
ricki Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 I know this is a bit off topic but a long time ago when I was a it student. I purchased an old fridge. Drilled a small hole in the door for the power and put the pc in that. Then over clocked the 348 in side to ridulus levels for the time. Richard
Greenbeast Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 I used this place to research and buy my kit, good shop with handy forum attached WaterCooling UK - UK PC Water Cooling Shop and Forums 1
Tarnovsky Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Hi I am now into my second year of watercooling and writing an article about it for Toms hardware. One of the main things to remember is that upgrading/adding components to a watercooled system is far more work than a standard system, and often requires the mainboard to be removed. Secondly, anyone remember DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM +/_ etc Well its the same with watercooling, you need to think about your fittings. I would personally set up a spreadsheet of fitting costs at 3/8" or 1/2" and then look at the bore of the fittings, 10mm or higher is better as it increases the waterflow. Then find tubing with a bore that matches. If using compression fittings you MUST make sure that the pipe will fit, i.e that the walls of the pipe are not too thick. Finally if you are going to do RAM/Mosfet/Northbridge or Southbridge cooling then you are going to need to split tubing rather than running a continuous serial (one component to another to the next) If you do this, then start with 1/2" 12mm or 13mm bore pipe as it splits equally into two 6mm pipes. You can then join them back before your radiator and will not lose too much pressure. There are watercooling components and components. I like the XSPC reservoir pump combinations, the double bay one has a massive flow, the single bay is OK. Personnaly I have a split system with one of each. Often you will find that lapping your heatsinks will pay dividends and takes about an hour per waterblock. XSPC unfortunately has some poor finishes so lapping is adviseable FYI my system is built for low noise 1
hman43 Posted April 2, 2009 Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) if you email me and your not to far away i can show some water cooling ideas as ive been doing it for about 11 years now and still doing it all the best i personally never run a single loop or split the pipes and rejoin them i make my own manifolds which is a little more costly but a lot better for cooling and looks better Edited April 2, 2009 by hman43
rolfea Posted November 10, 2010 Author Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) is it essential to water cool the motherboard chipset? will be building for low noise.. not overclocking Edited November 10, 2010 by rolfea
Butters Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Nope, most people don't as it's generally overkill. If you've got the money and space for the rads then would be a nice thing to get cooled aswell ! 1
Tarnovsky Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 is it essential to water cool the motherboard chipset? will be building for low noise.. not overclocking In that case no you do not need to. Mosfet cooling is a nice to have not a must have. CPU & GPU first then Northbridge & Southbridge second.
rolfea Posted November 10, 2010 Author Posted November 10, 2010 Ahh cool stuff. Found the stuff to cool CPU, using all XSPC stuff. Looking to get the XFX 5770 which is stupidly hard to find water blocks for. Atleast, I can't find anything. Also, when cooling GPU such as XFX 5770, do you remove or place water block over the top of the fan? Or is that a really stupid question?
Domino Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 oil submersion ftw!buy fish tank, put computer in (minus hard drive) and your done ...no Oil then?
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