mattx Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) All very well this stuck up Eton twit ranting about the UK economy, but he FAILS to provide any details on what his bunch of Eton boys would do....... His only answer so far is to call an election !! Idiot Edited December 10, 2008 by witch
somabc Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Isn't it obvious? The Tories plan is to fire half the domestic servants, sell all the family land off and only send the first two children to Eton. Sacrifices have to be made! 2
mattx Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 Isn't it obvious? The Tories plan is to fire half the domestic servants, sell all the family land off and only send the first two children to Eton. Sacrifices have to be made! LOL - that deserves some rep.....
tech_guy Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Cameron is a complete plonker. It's bad enough with the mess Labour have made, but imagine the cr@p we'll all be in if this chinless wonder and his party of hooray-henrys get in.
Vegas Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Had the Conservatives been in power we would still be in this situation, at least Mr Brown is trying to do something about it, not sure about Mr Cameron, I personally think he is a bit of an empty shirt.
somabc Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) Why not let him know how you feel? Contact David Cameron Email address: House of Commons: [email protected] Telephone numbers: House of Commons Phone number: 020 7219 3475 House of Commons Fax number: 020 7219 1945 Constituency Phone number: 01993 702 302 Constituency Fax number: 01993 776 639 Addresses: Constituency 10 Bridge Street Witney Oxon OX28 1HY source: DavidCameron.com [ame=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gTd3j31PIPo]YouTube - David Cameron introduces his new video blog site[/ame] [ame=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s8vpdQaJT64]YouTube - State Of The Union Parody[/ame] Edited December 9, 2008 by somabc
mattx Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) Why not let him know how you feel? YouTube - State Of The Union Parody I do, quite alot actually - nothing more therapeutic than sending an E-mail to MPS...... P.S. Reminds me of that Chris Morris one which was similar..... [ame=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8PAGb2O7lms]YouTube - Bushwhacked (Cartel Communique & Chris Morris)[/ame] This is one of my favs: [ame=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mYkGThMYmbk]YouTube - Blair and Cameron - changes !![/ame] Edited December 9, 2008 by mattx
torledo Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Had the Conservatives been in power we would still be in this situation, at least Mr Brown is trying to do something about it, not sure about Mr Cameron, I personally think he is a bit of an empty shirt. And you think bankrupting the futures of millions is doing something about it. And what is 'it' anyway ? You didn't really think a decade of living it up on cheap credit came at no cost ? This is the reaction to the economics of those two incompetents Brown and Greenspan. So 'it' is an inevitable deep recession that the world economy has to work through. They are not going shorten years of recession into a few months....they are not miracle workers. They are incompetent and irresponsible. All labour are doiing is preparing to win the next election by short-termist moves designed to buy your vote. Brown was given ample warning, and his promises of ending boom and bust and promising to curtail runaway house prices shows that in reality it was he who was the empty shirt. Cameron may have nothing new to add, but Brown is proposing more of the same old that created this mess. He has no clue. Browns economics is warped economics that leaves no real chance for reform and a very big bill at the end. I wish people would stop reading the mainstream headlines and actually realise that all these idiot politicians now proposing we spend and bail-out got us into this mess in the first place!!!!! How do you know they have the foggiest about what they are intending ? I see the nulabour machine has done a good job in hoodwinking the general population. 1
mattx Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 THE SITUATION You are in England, York to be specific. There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding. This is a flood of biblical proportions. You are a photo-journalist working for a major newspaper, and you're caught in the middle of this epic disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing into the water. Nature is unleashing all its destructive fury. THE TEST Suddenly, you see a man in the water. He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken down with the debris. You move closer... Somehow, the man looks familiar... You suddenly realise who it is... It's Gordon Brown! You notice that the raging waters are about to take him under forever. You have two options: You can save the life of Gordon Brown or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize-winning photo, documenting the death of one of the country's most powerful men! THE QUESTION Here's the question, and please give an honest answer... Would you select high contrast colour film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white? 1
Friez Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) They're all as rubbish as each other and have no idea what to do. The first party that produces a solid solution as to how to resolve recession quickly and efficiently with proof that it's going to work gets my vote! Would you select high contrast colour film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white? Given modern technology my camera would be digital, therefore I will be able to take a photo not only at massive resolution, but I will also be able to put on a speed shutter to capture multiple frames at a fast rate should I miss any shots. When I run out of memory on my memory card, it is only a quick switch to put in another. Then I will be able to select the very best of the shots that I have taken and then experiment in photoshop to see if it is better in black + white, sepia or just straight colour. Result! Edited December 9, 2008 by Friez
mattx Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 Gordon Brown goes to the doctors and says, "Doctor doctor, every time I look in the mirror I get aroused." The doctor replies, "I'm not surprised...you're a c u next tuesday."
torledo Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Cameron is a complete plonker. It's bad enough with the mess Labour have made, but imagine the cr@p we'll all be in if this chinless wonder and his party of hooray-henrys get in. No worse than nulabour. Serisouly. Labour have been shockingly bad and have INCREASED financial inequality. Why make this about class or status. A labour prime minister has recently announced mortgage interest deferral for people with mortgages up to 400,000 pounds. To most people on here, average earners, that is an almost unimaginable sum.....the idea that there is help for people with that kind of mortgage and yet NO help for young people struggling to start a family and home and in work!!!!! is scandalous.....so as you can see i don't buy the hooray henry bulls***. Brown has helped plenty of hooray henry's get richer and richer. the last time a conservative govt. was in charge in 1997 we had a strong economy AND opportunity and affordability for those without 400k mortgages. And more importantly no bailouts for the feckless and incompetent. 1
Gibson335 Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 All very well this stuck up Eton knob ranting about the UK economy, but he FAILS to provide any details on what his bunch of Eton boys would do....... His only answer so far is to call an election !! Knob. I love rants like this...as if Labour and the Libs don't have ex-public schoolboys in their ranks. Actually, I quite like the thought of educated people running my country...unfortunately, politicians of all colours are mostly not interested in what we as a nation want or need. But I've had enough of Scots running my country thank you...two on the spin is more than enough.
mattx Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 the last time a conservative govt. was in charge in 1997 we had a strong economy AND opportunity and affordability for those without 400k mortgages. And more importantly no bailouts for the feckless and incompetent. Reminds me of this joke: A guy calls Margaret thatcher. "Can I speak to the prime minister please?" She tells him she is no longer prime minister and tells him to try another number. Half an hour later, Maggie's telephone rings once more. "Can I speak to the prime minister please?" "Look, I've told you once I'm not prime minister any longer now pi55 off and leave me alone." Ten minutes later he calls again. "Is that the prime minister?" Maggie says, "I've told you repeatedly that I am NOT prime minister any longer, why are you doing this to me?" "I just enjoy hearing it," says the caller.
Sirbendy Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 We've (and to an extent we have been encouraged to) dug our own hole here. Living above the means, credit, "buy now pay later" etc... Look at house prices..fantasy world. Anyone ready "Making Money" by Pratchett? I refer you to the end bit - about fantasy gold, and banks promising to honour wages etc, and the gold being there, provided nobody goes to look. It's the single best summary of the whole idiotic mess we're in that I've read. The whole damn thing has been a dream..dream profits, dream values - I defy anyone to tell me things like the house prices, the mortgages etc are really worth anything physical. An agreement based on money never really seen is all it is. And then it falls over. Lets see what happens - the population of the world needs curbing - this might just be the kick it needs. You can't stop an avalanche - the most you can hope for it to let it level out and then pick up the peices and try to learn from the experience. Governments never will. All bloody money-grabbing spin idiots. Their wages are ridiculous, and so is everything they do. To an extent the same holds true for councils. Power corrupts. The UK isn't london, yet how often do the Gov't really get out of there and see? You can't model the UK on one over-inflated glorified city. It's just plain idiocy. I was brought up by an accountant, and my elders. I live by "make do and mend" and "if you can't afford it, do without". I don't own a credit card (debit), I've never taken a loan. I don't see the point. What I have may not be new, it may not be flashy, and it may look "distressed", but it's all paid for outright, no debt incurred. As opposed to my brother, who's quite in debt...living above his means, and not seeming to see it..until now. It's all stupid. If anything, a coelition governement might be more use..
mattx Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 Anyone ready "Making Money" by Pratchett? On my Xmas list.....
Dos_Box Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 I love all this talk of 'Toffs' and 'Hooray Henries\Henriattas'. Most of it is out of page 2 of the NuLabour spin manual disigned to create divisions and hatreds. Most of the current Labour govt went to public school, in fact many of them have not held down a single real job for more than 5 years before seeking power. My question is this though. If you were to trust your money to someone, would you trust it to the person who is rich and knows how to stay rich, or to the person who will blow it all on a Friday night? The last time to tories were in power the messed up big, but only in one key area. They forgot about people. They knew how to run an economy, but not the people. They too at the beginning of their last period of power were left with a broke and bankrupt country on the edge of anarchy and they turned it around, but at a cost. We are almost in the same situation again, but this time things are more blurred. There are no major industries left to collapse and no one really know where would be the best place to sit out a recession. We are going to live through a few very stange years I suspect, and simple name calling just shows a lack of thought and the kind a slavish mentality that got Labour back in last time. I don't blame Cameron for having no policies. He doesn't have to have any, his party are not in power (yet), but as the situation becomes clearer you can bet he will have some, especailly as the election draws nearer. 3
mattx Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) I love all this talk of 'Toffs' and 'Hooray Henries\Henriattas'. Most of it is out of page 2 of the NuLabour spin manual disigned to create divisions and hatreds. Most of the current Labour govt went to public school, in fact many of them have not held down a single real job for more than 5 years before seeking power. My question is this though. If you were to trust your money to someone, would you trust it to the person who is rich and knows how to stay rich, or to the person who will blow it all on a Friday night? The last time to tories were in power the messed up big, but only in one key area. They forgot about people. They knew how to run an economy, but not the people. They too at the beginning of their last period of power were left with a broke and bankrupt country on the edge of anarchy and they turned it around, but at a cost. We are almost in the same situation again, but this time things are more blurred. There are no major industries left to collapse and no one really know where would be the best place to sit out a recession. We are going to live through a few very stange years I suspect, and simple name calling just shows a lack of thought and the kind a slavish mentality that got Labour back in last time. I don't blame Cameron for having no policies. He doesn't have to have any, his party are not in power (yet), but as the situation becomes clearer you can bet he will have some, especailly as the election draws nearer. Knew how to run an economy ? Errrr 16th Sept 1992 ring any bells ? £3.5 billion down the bog......... Oh yes, the Tory's certainly knew how to run an economy didn't they..... Face it, most MPS are just a bunch of useless managers who can't tie there own shoe laces..... There are no major industries left to collapse 'Cos Maggie sold them all. Edited December 9, 2008 by mattx
somabc Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) You are right the Tories did mess up last time by not caring (at all) about ordinary people, this alone would make me never want to vote for them. They are elected by the 'people' to govern for the 'people'. Failing to do so leaves them completely contemptible IMHO. New Labour do share many traits with the Conservatives although there is still a greater spectrum of opinion / background. However New Labour had 10 years to change the face of politics, most of the time with a large majority and comfortable economic conditions and they have totally squandered the opportunity. Personally I would back the Lib Dems, why do people feel the need to vote for parties who make the same mistakes over and over again? http://www.warwicksu.com/asset/organisation/4185/postcard_dodo_big.jpg Edited December 9, 2008 by somabc
srochford Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 the last time a conservative govt. was in charge in 1997 we had a strong economy AND opportunity and affordability for those without 400k mortgages. Strongish economy, possibly but just take a look at the whole of the 80s and a good chunk of the 90s - not such a strong economy then - maybe the Conservatives don't know what to do after all. Of course, we can go back further, and look at the late 70s - massive inflation, government drifting, complete mess; looks like Labour have no clue either. Peering further back into the mists of time, we have the 3 day week, no electricity, candles running out in shops because people had to buy them to provide lighting. Maybe the Conservatives weren't that good then. We can play this game for a long time - everyone can come up with reasons why the "other" side is bad or good but it doesn't really help. I've no idea whether this government's plans are going to fix the problems but I really hope that they have got the right idea and we're not going to go back to the poor economic circumstances we've had too many times before. A few of the things which could help compared to the last recession is that interest rates are very low so although people have borrowed stupid amounts of money it is still affordable to pay it back (for those who weren't around or have just forgotten, in the early 90s we were paying over 15% interest on mortgages). Unemployment is rising but it's nowhere near the levels of the last decade. Prices have risen but seem to be stabilising (petrol is cheaper now than it has been for well over a year; if the dollar/sterling exchange rate were improves then it will be even cheaper) I want a government which tries to make sure that most people do OK. Not really sure which party that might be in the future.
Dos_Box Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 New how to run an economy ? Errrr 16th Sept 1992 ring any bells ? £3.5 billion down the bog......... Oh yes, the Tory's certainly knew how to run an economy didn't they..... Face it, most MPS are just a bunch of useless managers who can't tie there own shoe laces..... Most MPs are not trained managers full stop. In fact most are not trained anythings.
mattx Posted December 9, 2008 Author Posted December 9, 2008 Most MPs are not trained managers full stop. In fact most are not trained anythings. Very true, thats why they are MPs !!
MkII Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 We can play this game for a long time - everyone can come up with reasons why the "other" side is bad or good but it doesn't really help. Here here [grumble grumble zzzzz] I loved the 3 day week - evenings in candlelight - wonderful! I don't think we can say it enough: greedy bankers were allowed by the government to take us to the cleaners and put the country in ruin. Lesson learned... or maybe this is the new way we work now.
GrumbleDook Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 It doesn't matter who you vote for, the Govt alway get in!
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