Taylor1 Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 I've been told that going forward we should hold KS2 fine levels up to 5 decimal places. For Y11 just gone I can get this from table checking exercise, however, I have two queries - 1) where can I get similar for other year groups? and 2) as far as I can see the SIMS aspects only hold up to 2dp does anyone know if his is going to change?
NormalDistribution Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Thinks that's a SISRA thing but largely unneccesary.
tombry Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 The DfE are going to measure from it to be more accurate - one student I looked at the other week shifted her P8 score by .25 by moving from 2dp to 5dp.
garbage46 Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 In some circumstances it is totally necessary as it could change the Attainment 8 estimate for a student. Reading 2dp = 3.69 Maths 2dp = 3.21 Average 1dp = 3.5 Att 8 Est = 24.64 Reading 5dp 3.68599 Maths 5dp = 3.21231 Average 1dp = 3.4 Att 8 Est = 23.48 Att 8 Estimate difference = -1.16
NormalDistribution Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 It's necessary to calculate the average but it's not necessary to then hold 5dp in your system. 5.3 is 5.3 it doesn't matter if it's 5.34999 or 5.25001
garbage46 Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 Yes, I totally agree. Storing a 5dp KS2 is pretty pointless.
CAM Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 I have people asking for KS2 data for our new Y7 students. Does anyone know where I can acquire it this early on in term for a secondary school?
Seb1780 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 I get them from Key 2 Success in early July - just need the UPN from the application file.
NormalDistribution Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 Should be on NCA tools at the moment.
Taylor1 Posted October 4, 2017 Author Posted October 4, 2017 I've downloaded files from K2S but can't see a Reading or Maths fine level column, am I missing something? I'm new in post and checking existing data in the system which I think is incorrect eg think school have been using KS2 English rather than KS2 Reading for averaging. I can get download from FFT to check but wanted another dataset if possible to double/treble check.
tombry Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 You need to use a conversion tool to convert the raw marks into fine grades. Ben Fuller from Herts Grid used to have spreadsheets up here: HGfL: Teaching & Learning: Assessment: Attainment Data But they are no longer there - I imagine someone here might have them, but they probably haven't been updated - which software package are you using that is wanting the 5dp?
Taylor1 Posted October 4, 2017 Author Posted October 4, 2017 Thanks @tombry it's not so much the MIS needing 5dp at the moment (we use SIMS) I just want to get access to previous KS2 results so I can check against what we currently have in the system. I think that what is recorded in the system as Reading is actually English and want to double check before making wholesale changes.
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