rpain Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Hi, Our new Head doesn't like interactive boards - he'd rather have teachers with tablets of some kind being able to roam around the classroom. I'm sure you can imagine some of the teachers opinions but anyway that's where we are. All our staff have ipads and I'd like to get them either laptops or yoga type devices which could hook up wirelessly. What would people recommend for non interactive 65" screens these days? I'm looking at the Samsung qled screens as they're very bright (we have quite a few brightly lit rooms) and also have apple tv and miracast facilities built in and don't cost the earth. Thanks Richard
robyholmes Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 The issue we found was a lot of non-touch screens didn't have hard glass displays. Risking damage. Also by the time you'd paid for a commercial display (So you get a warranty for use in school) you were close if not the same or more than a 65" touch screen. 65" board can be had for around the £1300 mark currently.
yac2016 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Newline panels - 65" are about £1100 each, full touch 20 point, 4k, cast, broadcast, whiteboard, 5 year warranty. If you don't care about software.
mavhc Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 On the other hand you could buy 2 replacements for each random 65" tv screen before reaching commercial screen prices
rad Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Why not remove the interactive board and go for a whiteboard the projector screens onto? Then get a stylus for their iPad and an app for writing on like noteability? Or have I missed something
dmj Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 The issue we found was a lot of non-touch screens didn't have hard glass displays. Risking damage. Also by the time you'd paid for a commercial display (So you get a warranty for use in school) you were close if not the same or more than a 65" touch screen. 65" board can be had for around the £1300 mark currently. I had a similar experience, they are around the same price and fewer to chose from without touch. Get the touchscreen and turn it off. When a new head takes over you can just turn them back on.
BenQ_Support Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 Hi, Sponsor post. We do an ST Range of 4K commercial screens - 43" - 86". Has an android OS built in so can be used for casting or run our digital signage software. As someone else said the limitation is they don't have hard glass. Our entry-level RM touch screens offer hard glass and a better warranty. Also has our casting software instashare. Personally i'd go for the touchscreen even if you feel you wont regularly use the touch function. Price difference isn't much. Our instashare software allows casting from ios, windows, mac, chromebook with up to 9 way splitscreen possible. Windows and Mac devices also allows wireless touch capability rather than just casting. Hope that helps. Happy to jump on a VC with anyone that want's to discuss or just drop me a DM. 1
Brimstone Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) The issue we found was a lot of non-touch screens didn't have hard glass displays. Risking damage. Also by the time you'd paid for a commercial display (So you get a warranty for use in school) you were close if not the same or more than a 65" touch screen. 65" board can be had for around the £1300 mark currently. I have hundreds of schools with standard Samsung/Sony/LG 60-65 inch TV's that have had them for years without a single problem on replacing them under the waranty...Most have built in Airplay function so with an iPad no costly software to worry about or complicated upgrades. More HDMI and USB ports than most interactive TV's. Edited June 3, 2020 by Brimstone
robyholmes Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 I have hundreds of schools with standard Samsung/Sony/LG 60-65 inch TV's that have had them for years without a single problem on replacing them under the waranty...Most have built in Airplay function so with an iPad no costly software to worry about or complicated upgrades. More HDMI and USB ports than most interactive TV's. Interesting to know, so those are normal TV displays, purchase from a IT reseller or home appliance supplier?
rpain Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 Why not remove the interactive board and go for a whiteboard the projector screens onto? Then get a stylus for their iPad and an app for writing on like noteability? Or have I missed something We just don’t want do have to separately mount one coupled with lamp replacement costs and picture shake when the kids upstairs jump up and down. 1
SamanthaD Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 We're using the Sony FW range for non touch. Very quick start up time from standby, UHD resolution and great brightness. About £100 cheaper than our standard touch display. Worth a look IMO. 2
slugshead Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 Meeting rooms: Samsung TVs with Logitech C920 webcam. Classrooms: Prowise with the move cameras and the extended warranties. In all of the rooms... The Microsoft display adaptor, these are amazing. With the extended warranties on the Prowise screens the cost of ownership over the duration of the warranty works out to be really good. They're solid enough to "set and forget" about them. The downside, the software is not so good. But the picture is amazing and when coupled with the display adaptor and a teacher using a surface pro with the stylus, it's really slick.
SamanthaD Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Microsoft display adapters aren't bad - but only work with Miracast so no iOS devices and require firmware upgrades at the device, so they can't be managed centrally. But at the price point they're hard to beat!
chazzy2501 Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Install a UST projector that also uses the whiteboard. This way the classroom layout doesn't have to change and the teacher can choose to use either. Plus a UST can't get damaged easily if a pupil chucks somin' at the board. (also you can get interactive ones that would use the same normal whiteboard)
rpain Posted June 10, 2020 Author Posted June 10, 2020 I have hundreds of schools with standard Samsung/Sony/LG 60-65 inch TV's that have had them for years without a single problem on replacing them under the waranty...Most have built in Airplay function so with an iPad no costly software to worry about or complicated upgrades. More HDMI and USB ports than most interactive TV's. Thanks - and do you know whether there is a way to stop some devices taking over others that are projecting? The last thing I want is one teacher spoiling another's lesson by accidentally choosing the wrong room from the airplay device list! Now BYOD is well and truly here with our year 6's back, there would also be the potential for the kids to send their screens and although a passcode needs to be entered, it would still interrupt lessons. I can put them on different wireless ssids but I don't yet know how flexible airplay is. Richard
Brimstone Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 With a decent MDM solution, E.g. not profile manager or Meraki you can restrict which devices can connect to which AirPlay device, this plus the management password should suffice.
SamanthaD Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 If you're using a decent wireless casting device (ie not Chromecast or Apple TV) it should be able to generate a PIN that is displayed on the screen, this needs to be entered to cast to the device. This PIN can usually be set to change at regular time intervals, so if you have different classes in the same room it prevents users from outside the room connecting.
Brimstone Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 If you're using a decent wireless casting device (ie not Chromecast or Apple TV) it should be able to generate a PIN that is displayed on the screen, this needs to be entered to cast to the device. This PIN can usually be set to change at regular time intervals, so if you have different classes in the same room it prevents users from outside the room connecting. Both Chromecast and Apple TV can do the same as above..... 1
mavhc Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Doesn't the pin show on the tv screen though, so every pupil can see it? How do they cope with 10 video streams being sent over wifi in the same area?
6Foot2 Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Doesn't the pin show on the tv screen though, so every pupil can see it?... Our RICOH (interactive) screens show their pin upon request, but only for about 20 seconds, when if you haven't used it, you have to request it again. The pin changes automatically about every twenty minutes. Not sure how this compares with other screens.
Brimstone Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Our RICOH (interactive) screens show their pin upon request, but only for about 20 seconds, when if you haven't used it, you have to request it again. The pin changes automatically about every twenty minutes. Not sure how this compares with other screens. Same as above with Apple TV, the code is different every time. Technology is NOT there to replace good classroom management by teachers. Edited June 11, 2020 by Brimstone
Brimstone Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Doesn't the pin show on the tv screen though, so every pupil can see it? How do they cope with 10 video streams being sent over wifi in the same area? How do they cope....? The schools have the right infastructure for mobile learning, many of the schools have 2 screens in the classroom.
Danp Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 I'm looking at fitting 70" 4K TVs with Microsoft Wireless Adaptors.
snagrat Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 I'm looking at fitting 70" 4K TVs with Microsoft Wireless Adaptors. Which is fine if you can still g at hold of them. Not sure Microsoft are making many more
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