HMCTech Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 Hi there, Currently I am at a school where access to the servers is just a case of walking into a room. They are so insecure they often have their power leads pulled out, or their mice nicked. This is the case for all the servers, including the Sims.net one with all the information that Sims holds. I am trying in vain to persuade everyone that the servers and backups need to be put into a secure location. However with the school layout it would mean kicking someone else out of somewhere. Does anyone have an written official documentation links that I could read and show those higher up the chain that would persuade them that this needs to be done. Thank you
cl0n3 Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 Surely something in the data protection act must have something protecting something like a SIMs server? Have a read though it and wave it under SMT noses (at least this clears you if anything should happen as you did warn people)
GrumbleDook Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 Invite me down for a day ... I will demonstrate how much information I can grab from physical access to your servers. And this is before I disrupt a whole day of lessons by plugging a timer switch in where you mains lead is so it drops power to the server every hour. And then I will nick the hard drives so it won't even boot up. Hmm ...
HMCTech Posted May 15, 2008 Author Posted May 15, 2008 Invite me down for a day ... I will demonstrate how much information I can grab from physical access to your servers. And this is before I disrupt a whole day of lessons by plugging a timer switch in where you mains lead is so it drops power to the server every hour. And then I will nick the hard drives so it won't even boot up. Hmm ... Yes I have tried to explain how easy it would be for me to just lift the whole thing up and walk out of school with it. The most success is telling the Teachers about how much information on them would be available if say the server was stolen.
Edu-IT Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 The DPA will almost certainly contain something which states that personal information must be kept securely. http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/data_protection_act_legal_guidance.pdf I have had a quick read through and I think the part you want to look at starts at about page 40 (3.7). I would assume that each school has a data controller? Or is that not the case?
box_l Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 I always find that the best way is explain how many more 1000s of hours they would have to work to replace the lost data. no summer holidays for them! just re-writing lesson plans reports etc. BoX
Guest Guest Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) Inform them nicely about the DPA, how they are already breaking laws and how they would be liable if the data were to go missing. If they still dont do anything put it all in writting and get it recorded so that if anything did happen it would be their responsibility. Hopefully the thought of being liable will change their minds, but you could always make the servers disapear If your lea/RBC IT dept are anything like ours a quick call to them should see someone coming down for words with the HT Edited May 15, 2008 by Guest
pete Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 If finding space is an issue, there are alternatives: Acoustic Server Cabinets | Portable Server Environments | Air-cooled acoustic server rack enclosures | from Kell Systems As others have said, point out the security / stability / uptime / ease of cooling benefits. You need to make a business case for it - "if we have a server room, the benefits will be $bar, measurable by $foo". The other (slightly more nuclear option) is to discover whether governers are aware what responsibility they're taking on in not securing the systems: i.e Jail time. If they still refuse, ask the governers to sign a document stating: 1) that they are aware of the implications of not securing them 2) that they have decided not to secure them 3) that you have explained all of this to them clearly in a manner they can understand Place the document in a safe place, and tidy up your cv.
Guest coquet636 Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Hi there, Currently I am at a school where access to the servers is just a case of walking into a room. They are so insecure they often have their power leads pulled out, or their mice nicked. This is the case for all the servers, including the Sims.net one with all the information that Sims holds. I am trying in vain to persuade everyone that the servers and backups need to be put into a secure location. However with the school layout it would mean kicking someone else out of somewhere. Does anyone have an written official documentation links that I could read and show those higher up the chain that would persuade them that this needs to be done. Thank you Wait till about 5 minutes after last school bell. Go and unplug it and put it in your car. Then get them to try and find if they can work out where its gone. Then they will realise its pretty crucial to lock it away...... especially if you can avoid cctv cameras.....
sparkeh Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Again DPA. Perhaps inform them that the nominated person in change of data protection (usually the head) is liable to prosecution if someone waltzes away with the names and address of pupils at your school.
mossj Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 Hi there, Currently I am at a school where access to the servers is just a case of walking into a room. They are so insecure ..... SOMETEXT..... Thank you Erm buy a door and then invest in a lock or two? P.S i've considered this room might be used for something else but op doesn't say this.... 1
Edu-IT Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 Erm buy a door and then invest in a lock or two? P.S i've considered this room might be used for something else but op doesn't say this.... Usually requires permission though from the person responsible for managing the building.
Dos_Box Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 I would simply bandy about terms such as 'data protection act', 'duty of care' and 'court apperences'.
dhicks Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 I am trying in vain to persuade everyone that the servers and backups need to be put into a secure location. Passing through the head's office with sever with a smoking power supply, muttering "on fire, on fire, on fire..." generally works. Heck, it worked for my A-level physics project... -- David Hicks
alan-d Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 Have a look at this http://www.bcrc-uk.org/filelib/physical_security_of_ict_equiptment.pdf Get Safe Online :: Strengthen physical security http://schools.becta.org.uk/upload-dir/downloads/techspec_institutional_infrastructure_version_d_final.pdf Chapter 3.2 is what you are after Also the LEA should be able to offer advice too.
PEO Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 get a shotgun and shoot the crap out of it.. proves a point... sort off
witch Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 I have the same issue but less muscle as my servers are only curriculum, not SIMS or any data like that. I have argued for at least them being in a lockable room but not got very far. I think I might do something drastic soon!
Stuart_C Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 I feel your pain. I have been campaigning for ages, whislt our servers are in locked cabinets (Dell's own) they are in a computer room and the power sockets are massively exposed. Luckilly no-one has decided to switch them off! Perhaps I should to prove a point. I had a full document quoting the DPA, all my arguments etc etc and I get a "why are you bringing me this" kind of response. I would suggest painiting the worst scenario you can. Explain just how bad it will be and what effect it will have. Try and scare the life out of them. Luckilly I have the Bursar on side! There is an office coming availalbe soon and as I realsed through cunning use of fibre optic I don't need to have the servers within 100M of my central switch I've got my eye on it!
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