Server - Max. Internal Temperature??

[Pyroman]

Hey there,

 

Just got back from a nice relaxing weekend to find my office/server room like a sauna. I've managed to get some windows open to lower the ambient temperature but what should the internal temperature be on the server?

 

Intel Xeon 5320 Quad core

Core No.

#1 - 43°C

#2 - 42°C

#3 - 37°C

#4 - 40°C

 

Is this hot?

[Joanne]

I don't think that's too bad. I didn't think they shut down until the 60's anyways...?

[Pyroman]

I'm not sure that's why i'm asking, my PC used to shut down at about 55 i think but wasn't sure when it came to servers

[Gatt]

Isnt it in the BIOS somehwere (theres usually a sectino taht lists the current temps and then what the cutoffs are..)

 

need to find this info myself for Prolients DL380 and DL140

[Geoff]

Also be aware that increased temperatures will reduce the life of components of a system.

[srochford]

Sounds positively ice cold :-) I can't quickly find the quad core data sheet on the intel web site but this doc gives max working temps of about 70 degress for other Xeons.

 

We had an elderly Pentium III box which was desperate to be replaced and had to be done rather quickly when a CPU fan failed. Even in an air-con room, it reached about 90 degrees and then shut itself down! It was a twin CPU so we just took out the chip with the faulty fan and it limped along till we got the new server in.

[FN-GM]

Our servers starts screaming at the 50c mark. It can go higher than that though

[bizzel]

Our new exchange server (dual 2.6 quad core) revs up like a motorbike when the room temperature is above 25. Our air con has been on and off for about a week so we're coming in some mornings to hot, hot servers.

[tech-man]

they seems fine............ my aircon failed in the server room before xmas, got called in on a saturday morning.... it was 47+ degrees! See temp graph attached....

[ranj]

stupid question, but dont you have a separate area for your servers rathern than the office.

[Pyroman]

stupid question, but dont you have a separate area for your servers rathern than the office.

 

Nope unfortunately not, just 1 big office for myself and the server to be fair it is only 1 computer tower don't think that justifies it's own room =D

[Sirbendy]

We had a major overnight blip a few months back...we didn't know until we looked at MOM. 54 degrees of thereabouts for a couple of hours, then dropped like a stone.

 

I assume the aircon iced up. There are 2 units though, so it's a bit odd that both died..they're on seperate circuits as well..

 

We've also had an aircon fail that resulted in the thick fire door warping due to the heat in there...that was no fun. The smell of overheating silicon and the racks full of red flashing lights instead of peaceful blue ones..

[Pyroman]

Pinched a thermometer from science last night came in this morning and the ambient temp was 27C

[AJT1]

esinuk, how do you monitor your server temperatures, I like the graphs!

[Sirbendy]

Pinched a thermometer from science last night came in this morning and the ambient temp was 27C

 

We have ours set to 21 for the main unit, and 23-24 for the backup. Small room, no windows, 20odd servers+san, switches etc. We got a garden centre thermometer and mounted it to the wall..heh..They'll happily run hotter though.

 

Not an issue soon - they're all being ripped out and virtualised..we may have 2 boxes after that, or just 1. Bring on the summer hols - I want to see that go in. The place will echo, and we may as well shut one aircon down..

[Michael]

Those temps are absolutely fine Pyroman. They will go slightly up as the weather gets increasingly hotter.

[SYNACK]

Couldn't find the exact chip on the intel site but it looks like it is about 65 degrees.

 

Intel® Xeon® Processor X5355 - SL9YM

Thermal Specification: 65°C

[Pyroman]

Those temps are absolutely fine Pyroman. They will go slightly up as the weather gets increasingly hotter.

 

Couldn't find the exact chip on the intel site but it looks like it is about 65 degrees.

 

Intel® Xeon® Processor X5355 - SL9YM

 

Cheers guys, just me panicking over nothing then =D

[webman]

Not an issue soon - they're all being ripped out and virtualised..we may have 2 boxes after that, or just 1. Bring on the summer hols - I want to see that go in. The place will echo, and we may as well shut one aircon down..

 

I'd hate to be in your position if that single box suffered a hardware failure.

[bossman]

@Sirbendy: "eggs in one basket" springs to mind if you go down the route of one box to rule them all what would you have in place for DRP.

[Sirbendy]

I do believe the word is "bothered"..;-) We're still LEA - it's (in theory) a single box, but it's clustered and failovered with all the other secondaries, the civic office server farm and the Hadley Learning Community.

 

It's an LEA wide jobbie..SAN, Virtualisation etc..by all accounts if it dies, we just failover to one of many available WAN fibre servers and carry on with what is (promised) 15 seconds max downtime.

 

All secondaries here have servers in, some are nodal housing heavyweight kit (like us, in our case we run Zone 9, several primaries, public buildings and other local schools). All connected on Telewest fibre. The whole of Telford is literally a huge interconnected lump. Which is why all schools/public buildings have Cisco IP phones etc - calling anywhere in Telford is free, pretty much.

 

It's just that it's all been in place like this for 8 years now..we've had "Network 2" which bumped us from 10/100 to gigabit and fibre (and XP) "Network 2.5" which was the SAN introduction, server03 and other bits, and now it looks like "Network 3" (to the tune of £3.2m) refresh is coming in.

 

Virtualisation on a big scale. Bear in mind we have hundreds of servers on this WAN, and something like 30,000 users at last count..or was that 30,000 workstations.. and it makes sense..some of them are at retirement age or slightly beyond that.

 

It makes sense..and at least from my point of view, I'm going to be fascinated watching that go in. Box Failure is not a primary worry of ours.

 

Then, in 12 months or so we move away to a new building, our own in house ESX servers and infrastructure etc..that'll be fun as well..

[webman]

That's not so bad then

[Sirbendy]

indeed not.. I've got a chap here from TTS (parent academy), just chewing the fat about the new build vs current infrastructure pro/con list..it's good fun..

 

We've got a quadcore Poweredge 840 on order as well...when that arrives, we're going to ESX it and see what we can push it to. All in practise, of course. We already use VMWare server to virtualise 9 or so machines, and I'm going to use P2V to shift another over today, in theory.

 

I have to admit, I find the whole Virtualisation thing utterly fascinating..hardware is getting a bit dull of late, and now the baton of innovation seems to have gone to software..quite scary really.