Gates: Windows 7 to come 'in the next year or so'

[OverWorked]

So Windows 7 is due out soon.

 

This is another reason not to bother with Vista.

[InvisibleIntellectual]

Having seen some parts of Windows 7 - I have to admit - it looks not much different from Vista, though whether its more user friendly or stable will remain to be seen.

 

I have run Vista since it was Alpha code, its been OK - only managed to kill it once or twice, but then - most of the software I require to do my work only runs on XP - so here comes VMWare workstation .... strange really....

[cookie_monster]

MS always say that they don't support more than 2 generations of OS so bringing out a new version is another excuse to turn the knife on XP.

[Michael]

Realistically it'll be 2010 when Windows 7 is released, but I wouldn't get your hopes up whether it'll be better than Vista.

 

Microsoft always build from the last OS, so chances are, Windows 7 will include everything Vista has and more (including bloat). The only interesting bit I have read about Windows 7 is that it'll be modulated - meaning you switch on what you need and everything else is switched off.

 

This is nothing new, but if Microsoft really want Windows 7 to sell, they need to optimise it to the max. Especially as I think portable devices will be in circulation even more so than they are now. In the next few years, standardisation across multiple devices will be more common place with your data roaming with you.

[CyberNerd]

MS always say that they don't support more than 2 generations of OS so bringing out a new version is another excuse to turn the knife on XP.

 

MS have said they will continue to sell OEM XP till 2010 for eeepc and the rest.

 

I think windows7 will continue from XP, a lower footprint install, designed to run on lower hardware requirements such as mobiles - but modular enough to upgrade onto larger systems, just like linux does now.

[CyberNerd]

oh, the other thing I read about Windows 7 is that it will be re-written from scratch - just like nt,2k,xp,vista were

[Michael]

oh, the other thing I read about Windows 7 is that it will be re-written from scratch - just like nt,2k,xp,vista were

 

Of course!

[cookie_monster]

They are going to continue supplying XP for now but how long untill you can't install new software on it e.g. Office 2007 won't install on Windows 2000, no I.E 7 for it either.

 

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@ CyberNerd: Well they might rewrite the windows kernel but not all the packages that make up the rest of windows.

[FN-GM]

MS always say that they don't support more than 2 generations of OS so bringing out a new version is another excuse to turn the knife on XP.

 

They still support Windows 2000.......

[cookie_monster]

Only for security updates not product updates hence no I.E 7 or group policy extensions.

[FN-GM]

Plus you will get phone support.

[CyberNerd]

They are going to continue supplying XP for now but how long untill you can't install new software on it e.g. Office 2007 won't install on Windows 2000, no I.E 7 for it either.

 

indeed, but it's only MS products (or products that rely on windows .net components), that have 'enforced' OS boundaries. most other applications will run just fine. Besides, support on things like eeepc isn't going to matter so much for newer MS apps because they generally have a higher system requirement. Whilst applications like FF3, OOO, KDE are looking towards running faster on lower system requirements MS are only just catching up with this phenomena, hopefully this is where windows7 comes in -or more likely a web based subscription model.

[torledo]

I see bill is still banging on about his multitouch coffee table....

oh dear

 

I dont see how speculating an earlier than expected release date

means anything other than ms losing all confidence in being able

to get vista into corporate and education IT in sufficient penetration

 

Message is rest easy with with xp and plan for 7 two years from now

 

As for the next generation windows mobile platform...all they'll need to

is copy what apple will do with the iphone and touch operating systems.

 

I expect they'll get a headsup on what to include in 7 as OSx 10.6 should be out of the door a few months before

[CyberNerd]

I see bill is still banging on about his multitouch coffee table....

oh dear

 

yeah, I can see this'll be the next school ICT white elephant.

 

[torledo]

While the multitouch thing looks great, after you've shelled out several thousand and put you're own and a colleagues back out to bring it in........it can't be good for you're back crouched over the thing to use it.

 

If you want to move it again you've got to risk a hernia if you try shiting it alone.

 

Good concept for the multitouch but a huge waste of cash especially if all it's gonna do is display concentric circles when some visitor puts they're coffee down on it.

[SYNACK]

While the multitouch thing looks great, after you've shelled out several thousand and put you're own and a colleagues back out to bring it in........it can't be good for you're back crouched over the thing to use it.

 

If you want to move it again you've got to risk a hernia if you try shiting it alone.

 

Good concept for the multitouch but a huge waste of cash especially if all it's gonna do is display concentric circles when some visitor puts they're coffee down on it.

 

An expanded version(larger table) would be really good for the more junior of classes (primary). It could simply replace the large table that they all group around and crouch over now.

 

Each kid can have a separate active book, work area (drawing, handwriting, activity) open at their place on the edge of the table. Directed audio or even (eeek) headphones to each child and the table can provide help and guidance to each student individually to aid the teachers. It will should never replace the playing with blocks type learning but it could help speed up the learning of those that can learn quicker and help along those that don't. The biggest missing piece is the software to bind it all together.

Edited April 7, 2008 by SYNACK

[SYNACK]

As for the next generation windows mobile platform...all they'll need to

is copy what apple will do with the iPhone and touch operating systems.

 

I'd really rather they didn't copy the iPhone interface well, I'd rather they still let me have some form of rudimentary control over what I can and can't do and install on the device. I don't want to have to submit my requests to the great high Jobs to gain approval of my need to install certain software that does certain things, flash, background services, anything that might slightly impune apples ability to control my device more than I can. Yes I can Jailbreak it but why should I have to void the warranty to make it do what I want it to do.

 

I'm looking to a different source for proper mobile computing, Android and OpenMoko. Both seem a lot less oppressive than the Apple offering.

[torledo]

I agree the absense of flash is a pain, and down right bizaree.

 

But i think the platform is going to open up....the big vendors such as cisco will develop client apps, push email is coming and the iphone sdk is the beginning of opening the platform to developers to create a wide variety of apps.

 

Have not looked at android, but i think Apple have the advantage if the hardware and software continue to improve in future revisions.