samb56 Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 We have seen this also, do you use Impero on this machine? 1
newpersn Posted May 8, 2017 Author Posted May 8, 2017 We have seen this also, do you use Impero on this machine? Yes. Can't blame impero for everything. Although V1703 has fixed our black screen issue.
KibosJ Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Well it isn't the fonts that are at fault it happened again to me this morning. Signed out and back in again and all is solved. I wonder what is going on? Scratch that, signing out and signing back in again didn't fix it this time, I've had to reboot this time Edited May 9, 2017 by KibosJ
sccmlouis Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Yes. Can't blame impero for everything. Well... you can. The way in which it works, it interacts with every part of the OS. Causing little issues along the way it seems! We have tested 10 pcs, 5 with impero, 5 without and the issue is non existent on the 5 without.
newpersn Posted May 9, 2017 Author Posted May 9, 2017 Well... you can. The way in which it works, it interacts with every part of the OS. Causing little issues along the way it seems! We have tested 10 pcs, 5 with impero, 5 without and the issue is non existent on the 5 without. Do you have impero built in to your main image? I built a new image V1703 without impero and will see how its gets on.
Spenketh Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 We deploy Impero outside of our W10 build and still experience the same issues as everyone. Impero kinda makes it difficult to troubleshoot issues as I never know if the problem is going to be Impero or W10 related..
sccmlouis Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 We also deploy Impero outside of our image using SCCM to install the MSI.
KibosJ Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Same here, Impero is deployed with SCCM after the image. It's so intermittent for me, it happens every now and again, but 90% of the time I don't have any issues, so it would be hard to test with Impero removed; I wouldn't know if it was fixed or not.
FragglePete Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Just installed 1703 on a machine; fresh install using MDT and have just experienced this issue. Right Click start menu contains no text whatsoever, desktop icons have no text and control panel shows only icons! Crikey! Looks like we'll be holding back on 1703 for now. Pete
sccmlouis Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Just installed 1703 on a machine; fresh install using MDT and have just experienced this issue. Right Click start menu contains no text whatsoever, desktop icons have no text and control panel shows only icons! Crikey! Looks like we'll be holding back on 1703 for now. Pete Impero again?!
FragglePete Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Impero again?! Who knows! I had it installed, so I've just uninstalled Impero to see if it helps. Various reboots beforehand did bring parts of it back, but this is just getting silly. If it is Impero....... then..... argggg.... Pete
sccmlouis Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Who knows! I had it installed, so I've just uninstalled Impero to see if it helps. Various reboots beforehand did bring parts of it back, but this is just getting silly. If it is Impero....... then..... argggg.... Pete We have tested with fresh installs with and without impero (rather than uninstalling it) and have found that without fail it only occurs when Impero has been installed. Indeed arggg!
newpersn Posted May 10, 2017 Author Posted May 10, 2017 New update released. May 9, 2017—KB4016871 (OS Build 15063.296 and 15063.297) Improvements and fixes This security update includes quality improvements. No new operating system features are being introduced in this update. Key changes include: Addressed issue with Surface Hub devices waking from sleep approximately every four minutes after the first two hours. Addressed issue where autochk.exe can randomly skip drive checks and not fix corruptions, which may lead to data loss. Addressed an issue where Microsoft Edge users in networking environments that do not fully support the TCP Fast Open standard may have problems connecting to some websites. Users can re-enable TCP Fast Open in about:flags. Addressed issues with Arc Touch mouse Bluetooth connectivity. Security updates to Microsoft Edge, Internet Explorer, Microsoft Graphics Component, Windows SMB Server, Windows COM, Microsoft Scripting Engine, Windows kernel, Windows Server, and the .NET Framework. If you installed earlier updates, only the new fixes contained in this package will be downloaded and installed on your device. Wonder if the bold update will fix things?
KibosJ Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 New update released. Wonder if the bold update will fix things? I've installed that update now, will see how things go. If it is an Impero problem though I doubt it will solve much
newpersn Posted May 12, 2017 Author Posted May 12, 2017 Still got the problem. I have now disabled impero on that one machine... I 'll post if it still happens or fixes.. (otherwise i will re-image with my new V1703 image....
KibosJ Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Still got the problem. I have now disabled impero on that one machine... I 'll post if it still happens or fixes.. (otherwise i will re-image with my new V1703 image.... I've installed the updated version of Impero, that may help matters too. Will report what happens
newpersn Posted May 12, 2017 Author Posted May 12, 2017 I've installed the updated version of Impero, that may help matters too. Will report what happens We havent paid for support this year and we are in the process of moving to netsupport.. (just need time to sort out)
arron Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I've installed the updated version of Impero, that may help matters too. Will report what happens Which Version would that be?
Mic_Impero Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Hi all, In case it helps, I've just created a VM for 1703, installed 6045 and have been unable to replicate the problem. I've then performed all windows updates and tested, then upgraded to 6.0.79 and tested, still unable to replicate this. I then removed Impero, ran a sysprep and started again, same results. @sccmlouis I'd be interested to know the differences between our builds, please could you PM me your details so I can be in touch on Monday? Thanks Mic @ Impero
newpersn Posted May 12, 2017 Author Posted May 12, 2017 Hi all, In case it helps, I've just created a VM for 1703, installed 6045 and have been unable to replicate the problem. I've then performed all windows updates and tested, then upgraded to 6.0.79 and tested, still unable to replicate this. I then removed Impero, ran a sysprep and started again, same results. @sccmlouis I'd be interested to know the differences between our builds, please could you PM me your details so I can be in touch on Monday? Thanks Mic @ Impero I don't think a VM will show this up. A few of us have gone from v1607 with impero installed. Ran the upgrade to v1703 and now getting this problem. (More notible when the computer being used by different people (switched users, log off and new person logs on) ps we was on v5.3.32. (guessing this as I'm at home)
Mic_Impero Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Thanks for the extra info. We'll get onto testing this on some physical machines next week and under some load, log on / off, different types of profiles etc. I don't think a VM will show this up. A few of us have gone from v1607 with impero installed. Ran the upgrade to v1703 and now getting this problem. (More notible when the computer being used by different people (switched users, log off and new person logs on) ps we was on v5.3.32. (guessing this as I'm at home)
Mic_Impero Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 There are changes to DPI scaling in 1703 too, I wonder if that's related and why some people are seeing fixes in font updates? High-DPI Scaling Improvements in the Windows 10
Mic_Impero Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Please could a couple of you also confirm whether you're seeing this on 32 / 64bit OS or both? Thanks Mic
newpersn Posted May 13, 2017 Author Posted May 13, 2017 Please could a couple of you also confirm whether you're seeing this on 32 / 64bit OS or both? Thanks Mic 64bit here.
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