Apache + IIS On the same box?

[Guest]

Just a quick one. I am currently rebuilding an old RM server. W2K3 box which will be used for WUS plus as a media / photo server. Now i know WUS uses IIS. I want to use MyQSL / Apache / Joomla / Gallery2 for the media serving stuff. Is this poss?

 

Is it just a matter of different ports for IIS / Apache?

 

Cheers in advance.

[webman]

Yeah, both will sit happily on the same box as long as they listen on different ports

[SteveT]

I`m running Moodle (plus Apache and EasyPHP) on a windows machine and the only way to get it to run is to turn off the IIS service. Maybe I`ve missed something but they don`t seem to be the best of friends!!!

[DMcCoy]

There is a setting that has to be changed for iis if you want apache to use port 80, as iis continues to keep it open even if you change port numbers. I'll have to see if I can find the kb. It can be done, as I did it

[Guest]

Coolio

 

Its a W2K3 Server SP1 Box.

[webman]

Hmmm...apparently you have to bind IIS to one IP and apache to another... so your NIC must have 2 IPs assigned to it.

[Guest]

There is always something. Any links for more info?

[DMcCoy]

Hmmm...apparently you have to bind IIS to one IP and apache to another... so your NIC must have 2 IPs assigned to it.

 

Hmm, let me check. So it does. Ah, that was it. Even if you assign iis to one ip, it still takes port 80 for all ips unless you change something. :?

 

Ta-da! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813368/EN-US/

[webman]

Who'd have thought "Setting metabase property DisableSocketPooling has no effect" would have anything to do with IIS port interference? 8O

[Ric_]

Why not just put 2 NICs in the box? Save you typing all those extra digits

[DMcCoy]

Who'd have thought "Setting metabase property DisableSocketPooling has no effect" would have anything to do with IIS port interference? 8O

 

There is a kb for iis 5.0 that sets this property that doesn't work, which is why I had to find this one

[Geoff]

Why not just put 2 NICs in the box? Save you typing all those extra digits

 

Seems a waste of a NIC card to me. How about using IP Aliasing instead?

[Ric_]

@Geoff: Depends on how many spare NICs you have (in my case loads) and how lazy you are.

[john]

Same here Ric, at last count I had about 200 standard PCI NICs, about 10 64bit PCI 3Com Gbit ones, and 5 HP Posh dual port, load balancing NICs that are PCI-X etc.... as well as maybe 100 Fibre Nics and lots of PCMCIA ones as well! So I can always spare a few for extras. Just wish I had more that my new DL380s like as I had to use one of the posh HP ones for a job the other day as they dont like the standard 64bit ones

[Ric_]

@john: Stop showing off! I only have one HP fibre NIC, 3 shitty D-Link gigabit ones and maybe 20 regular PCI 10/100 adapters (plus the hand full of PCMCIA ones that appear from God knows where).

[CyberNerd]

and they say IIS/Windows is easy to use.....

[Guest]

Just to add something else into the mix, I intend to use Microsoft Media Services aswell to stream video. What would be the best order to install / setup the following

 

IIS, WSUS, MMS, Apache?

[Ric_]

Why exactly do you need Apache AND IIS?

[Geoff]

Presumably he has PHP and ASP based sites.

[Ric_]

PHP works on IIS

[webman]

PHP runs so much better on Apache though

 

...W2K3 box which will be used for WUS plus as a media / photo server. Now i know WUS uses IIS. I want to use MyQSL / Apache / Joomla / Gallery2 for the media serving stuff. Is this poss?

[Guest]

I know php works with IIS, but in previous experience, not at all well, plus can be a pig to setup.

 

I need IIS so that I can use WSUS + MMS. I also want to run gallery2 and a Joomla based intranet, and having these on an apache based webserver is a doddle to setup and manage.

 

If I had a 3rd server I would use one box for IIS and one for Apache, but I can't so both have to be on the same box.

[Ric_]

I've set up Mambo and Moodle on IIS before now (the server was also running DotNetNuke) and it was relatively easy.

 

I have found PHP very easy in the past to use with IIS - simply use the Windows Installer download and then download the package for manual install since that contains all the extra modules - copy these into the relevant directory and enable them in php.ini.

 

Just a suggestion - I know that you ideally want to use LAMP because it is more stable and generally easier to configure and use.

 

Another suggestion would be to use VMWare to produce a virtual Linux server running Apache - maybe a little OTT though.

[E1uSiV3]

why not use host headers?

 

 

in DNS configure 2 records with the same ip such as iis.schoolname.sch.uk and apache.schoolname.sch.uk

 

in IIS, configure host headers to filter the traffic between the 2 sites:

 

iis.schoolname.sch.uk -> IIS website

apache.schoolname.sch.uk -> apache website running on a non standard port

 

not 100% if this will work but its worth a try

[Guest]

The problem was getting apache + IIS to both run on port 80 at the same time.

 

Cheers for all the info guys. I now have a server running WUS and MMS on IIS and a working Apache server all running off port 80.

 

Using a different port for appache and the one IP address was easiest to setup. But decided to go with the 2 different IP addresses and share the port. saved having :xxxx at the end of the address.

 

Thanks again ppl