Which Win10 version?

[SuperduperPackager]

Steam is great.

 

Ok I will stop now as to not derail this thread completely!

[SHimmer45]

Edge extensions will be downloaded through the Store.

 

More info on extensions support in Microsoft Edge, available now in Windows 10 build 14291

 

thanks for the link.

 

as usual microsoft fragmented approach to delivering an OS continues..

[timbo343]

This might be of use to anyone who is having difficulty understanding which version of windows 10 to deploy:

 

Understanding the Long Term Servicing Branch and Current Branch in Windows 10 | Windows 10 content from Windows IT Pro

 

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From what i understand, think of education and enterprise for personal devices such as laptops which are away from the network most of the time and LTSB i think should be for devices on the domain.

Edited March 25, 2016 by timbo343

[DigiBen]

We went with LTSB but are now regretting it, although its fast to login and is very easy to setup as its all cut down. Its missing the new photo and video viewer, new calculator, and ability to install any app. We thought it would just be a basic install that we could build on, but apparently it can not be built up at all.

 

I think we are going with EDU version instead now

[Michael]

All of my deployments are based around Windows 10 Education.

 

The argument for LTSB without Apps isn't a good one, as you can use AppLocker to restrict the running of such Apps, problem solved. The only difficulty many of use have had is the removal of said Apps from the Start Menu (so they're not visible). From this point of view I agree, it's more problematic as many of us on here (myself included) have had mixed results. All my networks include Classic Shell as standard, so the manageability of the Start Menu is restored and is more functional. My end users cannot see or run any Apps other than the handful of useful ones I allow.

 

As others have stated, Microsoft will continue to build and include new features. Every week Redstone has new features which will leave the original 10240 and 10586 builds for dust in time. I'm not saying you should wait until Redstone or deploy it immediately upon release, but I think as time goes on the Windows versions will be more distinguished than when Windows 10 was released Summer 2015.

[sparkeh]

All of my deployments are based around Windows 10 Education.

 

The argument for LTSB without Apps isn't a good one, as you can use AppLocker to restrict the running of such Apps, problem solved. The only difficulty many of use have had is the removal of said Apps from the Start Menu (so they're not visible). From this point of view I agree, it's more problematic as many of us on here (myself included) have had mixed results. All my networks include Classic Shell as standard, so the manageability of the Start Menu is restored and is more functional. My end users cannot see or run any Apps other than the handful of useful ones I allow.

 

As others have stated, Microsoft will continue to build and include new features. Every week Redstone has new features which will leave the original 10240 and 10586 builds for dust in time. I'm not saying you should wait until Redstone or deploy it immediately upon release, but I think as time goes on the Windows versions will be more distinguished than when Windows 10 was released Summer 2015.

Couldn't agree more.

 

Edu with classic shell here. Works really well and not at all difficult to get configured and deployed.

 

I do think that the versions will diverge as time goes on and being on the Edu track makes sense to me.

[Steve21]

Apart from the menu you found any downside of Edu at all?

 

Steve

[sparkeh]

Apart from the menu you found any downside of Edu at all?

 

Steve

Nothing specific to the Edu version, but with Edu\Ent you will have to keep up with the builds to keep getting security updates. But then you get a year to do it so a summer update of the machines isn't too onerous (for us anyway).

[Michael]

No real issues to be honest. Most of the GPOs for 7 are applicable for 10 (plus some new ones), so from that perspective it wasn't too difficult.

 

Of course you still have the flexibility of using 32Bit for older devices and 64Bit for newer devices. This greatly helps with speed.

 

Consulting end users, it wasn't so much just the Apps, it was more so basics such as logging off or shutting down... it wasn't immediately obvious, especially for younger pupils. Classic Shell I find has the right balance and caters for most if not all issues.

[Steve21]

Aye that's cool, certainly want to have a play with getting 10 to work here, but need to upgrade SCCM etc to start the ball rolling

 

Just want to make sure we don't go down one route e.g. LTSB and then something comes along we require Edu for and it doesn't work etc haha

 

Thanks,

Steve

[Michael]

Just think of it like this - Microsoft (to the best of my knowledge), have never released an officially branded Education version of Windows. Yes it's identical to Enterprise feature wise and yes previously many Educational sites deployed Enterprise... Why? Probably because it had the most features and was ideal for power users.

 

Now there's no need and all users in your Educational establishment can all use the same/shiny Educational version that Microsoft recommend. It isn't perfect, but then again no version of Windows is and never will be.

 

LTSB has its place but not in Education (from my point of view). There will inevitably be new features, standards and tools coming down the line and LTSB will probably get few if none of them. Works for mission critical, banking, factory environments yes, but not Education. Education requires a high level of service, but it isn't mission critical.

 

One obvious application for LTSB is an ATM. Many of them are running XP and 7, but in time I'm sure the banking community would look at Microsoft's LTSB offering more seriously as it doesn't need new features - only high security, processing transactions using well established protocols. There's nothing cutting edge about this.

[Winner]

New features are coming exclusively to the Education edition in the Anniversary Update so IMO this would be the best edition to choose going forward.

[sparkeh]

New features are coming exclusively to the Education edition in the Anniversary Update so IMO this would be the best edition to choose going forward.

 

Might be being thick but I can't see anything about it being exclusive to education version?

[Winner]

Sorry, I meant the part about the education focused modern apps. Gives options over and above what can be achieved with LTSB.

[timbo343]

Luckily we have created 2 different images. An LTSB one and an Educational one. I was all for LTSB until Tuesday when the updates came out. We're now going for Education as the security patches for windows can can be controlled via WSUS. LTSB doesnt get any of these security updates so we cannot roll them out.

[disk]

We are planning our Windows 10 deployment for staff, faculty, and instructional areas. We are going with Enterprise for all areas.

[Sheridan]

We're most likely going LTSB, I want an OS not a collection of crappy apps designed for a home PC. XBox FFS in Education?

[ColinP]

This Article seems to imply that if you make a windows 10 image on enterprise / education, if you do a reinstall a year later it wont get any updates??

 

https://redmondmag.com/articles/2016/04/11/business-ready-label-to-windows-10.aspx

 

Microsoft has been gradually describing its Windows 10 release scheme. Unfortunately, each new explanation doesn't seem to make thinking about it any easier. The bottom line appears to be that IT pros will have to track Windows 10 version numbers and CBB releases. They'll have to move to the next CBB per version within a year of the initial CB's initial release date in order to stay supported with patches.

Edited April 19, 2016 by ColinP

[Arthur]

This article seems to imply that if you make a windows 10 image on enterprise / education, if you do a reinstall a year later it won't get any updates?

If you regularly recreate your Windows 10 image(s) using the latest install media from VLSC and update existing Windows 10 PCs that are on the CBB within the 8+ month window after new feature upgrades become available that won't be an issue.

 

https://technet.microsoft.com/itpro/windows/manage/introduction-to-windows-10-servicing#deferred-upgrade-cbb

 

http://i.cubeupload.com/2MLaSi.png

[RyReZar]

I've made a few images using Windows 10 Education and it seems to be quite stable with little issues, although our Windows 7 images are still more stable so we wont be migrating any time soon.