fiza Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I understand the basic theory of a VLAN but have no idea how you would implement it on a switch. We have HP Procurve switches in our secondary (no VLANs) and Cisco switches in our Primary (2 VLANs). I want to know what I am doing when we have issues at the Primary. Is the following book a good starting point? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cisco-Networking-All-One-Dummies/dp/0470945583 Does anyone recommend any others? I want to set up a small network to test things out on ; I have access to an HP Procurve 2848 and an HP A5120. I know neither of these is a Cisco but its all i have access to. What else do I need? Is either of these switches a Layer 3 switch?
CyberNerd Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Does anyone recommend any others? Read the HP manuals. 1
jtotheb Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I find Chris Bryant's material useful. He has free videos on Youtube, full courses on udemy and some kindle books http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chris-Bryants-CCNA-Study-Guide/dp/B00XLZ1L8G Todd Lammle's Cisco books for Sybex are also pretty good. 1
FN-GM Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 I would look at the CCENT (ICND 1) material. You will get a good understanding of general network plus a few Cisco specific bits. 1
timbo343 Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Have you looked at youtube? Youll be surprised how easy it is to set them up. I was a bit like you a few years ago but now its harder to explain than do it. Just remember that Cisco and HP use the same words but mean different things... See the link, it will explain things better than i can. http://www.petenetlive.com/KB/Article/0000741 1
timbo343 Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 I understand the basic theory of a VLAN but have no idea how you would implement it on a switch. We have HP Procurve switches in our secondary (no VLANs) and Cisco switches in our Primary (2 VLANs). I want to know what I am doing when we have issues at the Primary. Is the following book a good starting point? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cisco-Networking-All-One-Dummies/dp/0470945583 Does anyone recommend any others? I want to set up a small network to test things out on ; I have access to an HP Procurve 2848 and an HP A5120. I know neither of these is a Cisco but its all i have access to. What else do I need? Is either of these switches a Layer 3 switch? Have you got a smoothwall? The smoothie can be configured to dish out DHCP requests across different VLANs. We had a layer 3 switch which hosted the VLANs but just remember to use IP HELPER if you have a server on VLAN1 and its dishing out different subnets. Play with static IPs first and then work from there. 1
CyberNerd Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 I'd like to qualify my earlier "read the HP manual" comment: Vendor documentation is probably the best resource you can find. The manufacturers really, really want you to implement their technologies and the good ones (HP networking, Cisco, IBM etc) make some fantastic resources available for free. They often include their own terminology and emphasise their proprietary protocols/services (not to the extent that MS try and re-write things). The important 'concept' stuff is open standards which are implemented by all vendors; so go get yourself some manuals as they are all readily available.
fiza Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 I've ordered the official CCENT guide and the dummies guide I looked at CBT nuggets but it was quite expensive. Does anyone know of a good virtual lab I could subscribe to that isn't too expensive?
FN-GM Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I've ordered the official CCENT guide and the dummies guide I looked at CBT nuggets but it was quite expensive. Doesn't cost as much as the courses Look for subnetting tutorials on Youtube. You need to learn how to subnet in less than 2 minutes. 1
DJ-1701 Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I don't remember CBT Nuggets offering a 7 Day Trial before, nice. https://www.cbtnuggets.com/subscriptions#feature_chart
fiza Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 Can anyone comment on the lab kits that are being offered on Ebay like Cisco CCENT CCNA CCNP LAB STARTER KIT 1x 1760XM + 1x 2950-24 + 1x 2950-12 | eBay Are any of these worth getting?
Oaktech Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 It might not be the best way, but the way I learnt how to do it on HP kit was to read the manuals, then spend a few evening at work - backup the switch config so it's easy to roll back if you have an issue, choose a port on one switch, choose a port on another switch - keep working on the config so the vlan squirts out where you want. I then did some L3 stuff routing between vlans and adding secondary DHCP servers - like using our firewall to provide DHCP to our guest wireless vlan and just went from there. You'll learn loads more reading and doing at the same time time than just reading. 1
fiza Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 I will be doing exactly that but I cant do it on the live system. I have the 2 HP switches and I will be buying a couple of cisco SG-300-10 ports. This will give me experience on both HP and cisco.
FN-GM Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I will be doing exactly that but I cant do it on the live system. I have the 2 HP switches and I will be buying a couple of cisco SG-300-10 ports. This will give me experience on both HP and cisco. Do not get those! They are small business switches, essentially Linksys with a Cisco badge. They will be nothing like the content you have learnt. You need Cisco catalyst switches. +1 for Packet Tracer. No need to get physical then.
fiza Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 Do not get those! They are small business switches, essentially Linksys with a Cisco badge. They will be nothing like the content you have learnt. You need Cisco catalyst switches. +1 for Packet Tracer. No need to get physical then. Don't they use the Cisco ios? It's what the primary school have already got but with more ports.
ellsandell Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Packet Tracer and GNS3. You can get a hold of the IOS versions for GNS3 and if you PM me I can find a copy of Cisco Packet tracer. 1
FN-GM Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Don't they use the Cisco ios? It's what the primary school have already got but with more ports. 99% sure they don't. 1
timbo343 Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I've ordered the official CCENT guide and the dummies guide I looked at CBT nuggets but it was quite expensive. Does anyone know of a good virtual lab I could subscribe to that isn't too expensive? Just done a quick google and it came up with this.. VIRL - Virtual Internet Routing Lab dunno if its any use but packet tracer is fairly good 1
fiza Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 I'd already seen VIRL. Seems a good deal with the academic licence. Might get school to cough up for that.
fiza Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 99% sure they don't. I need to know how to configure their switches. They have sg300s and a couple of sg500s in a stack.
fiza Posted January 26, 2016 Author Posted January 26, 2016 Do not get those! They are small business switches, essentially Linksys with a Cisco badge. They will be nothing like the content you have learnt. You need Cisco catalyst switches. +1 for Packet Tracer. No need to get physical then. Any recommendations for catalyst switches? 2nd hand off ebay would be ok.
FN-GM Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Any recommendations for catalyst switches? 2nd hand off ebay would be ok. Catalyst 2950's will do the job. You get 100mbs ones for nothing these days. If your planning on getting certified (CCNA or CCENT) these are the way to go. Thanks 1
jtotheb Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Catalyst 2950's will do the job. You get 100mbs ones for nothing these days. If your planning on getting certified (CCNA or CCENT) these are the way to go. Perfect for switching. Couple more quid for a 3550 and you'll be able to do multilayer stuff too without a router, or add some routers in for a full lab.
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