X-13 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 I've just been sent a proposal for a managed print setup, and someone [who has nothing to do with IT] is making comments about how high the cost per page is. Can anyone with MFPs/laser printers let me know what their cost per page is, so I can see where this sits?
tommej Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Printers, Multifunction & Colour Laser Printers, Ink Cartridges put the running costs of printers at the bottom of each models page. Might be useful for you. 1
bladedanny Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Ours are about £0.03 per colour page and £0.003 per mono page. Plus a quarterly rental cost. 1
featured_spectre Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 This is what we pay. We bought the printers outright, and this is uniform cost over Printers and Copiers, and covers cost for maintenance, repairs, new toner, cleaning kits etc etc 0.00342p - Black and White 0.02750p - Up to half page of Colour 0.05000p - Anything over half page of Colour per page 1
X-13 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 [ATTACH=CONFIG]25138[/ATTACH] Looks like I need to shout at people...
pcstru Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Mono : £0.0025-£0.0030 + Lease Colour : £0.021-£0.03 (per click up to SRA3) + Lease 1
tmcd35 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Print: A4 Mono - 0.02p A4 Colour - 0.05p A3 Mono - 0.03p A3 Colour - 0.09p Photocopy: A4 Mono - 0.01p A4 Colour - 0.04p A3 Mono - 0.02p A3 Colour - 0.08p Prices are rounded up and include paper costs, discounts apply for duplexing. Photocopying charge is closer to actual costs from supplier, Print cost is inflated to get teachers to photocopy more than print. 1
RichCowell Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 It'd be worth asking for the devices people are using too - cost per copy on a smaller / cheap MFP is going to be higher than a huge great expensive device... Having said that - I think I'll have to review ours as they seem higher than some that have been mentioned... 1
Edu-IT Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Colour Prints @ £0.0393p each Mono Prints @ £0.0054p each 1
mthomas08 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Ours are about £0.03 per colour page and £0.003 per mono page. Plus a quarterly rental cost. We purchase ours outright and this is the costing on the new contracts/equipment we are looking at. Currently we pay 4p per colour and 0.4p per mono. The 3p/0.3p is a very good price. I was quoted for 5p/0.5p for a PRO Ricoh Colour printer but everything else below that model and other companies (Toshiba/ScanDB/Ricoh/EKS) had the 3p/0.3p prices. 1
pcstru Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Might be worth mentioning here that the government procurement service Contract Ref RM1599 deals with managed print services and MFD's. There is a limited range of suppliers but it can avoid a full tendering process and prices are competitive. ETA - just checking the LOT1 pricing : Mono 0.199p Colour : 1.99p (you will need to register to see the pricing) Edited June 18, 2014 by pcstru 1
spadam Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Photocopying charge is closer to actual costs from supplier, Print cost is inflated to get teachers to photocopy more than print. Why do you encourage teachers to photocopy more than print? I'm sure there's a good reason, I just haven't got a clue what it is...
X-13 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 Why do you encourage teachers to photocopy more than print? I'm sure there's a good reason, I just haven't got a clue what it is... Photocopiers are generally cheaper per copy than printers. 1
spadam Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Thanks - I have only ever known MFDs where the price is the same regardless so this is news to me.
featured_spectre Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 They may be the same cost per page, but you will use less toner/wax etc overall on an MFD over a Printer any day of the week.
visioN Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 3p colour, 0.03p mono - printers provided with no rental / lease cost - have about 20 1
MatthewL Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 For Sharp kit you are looking at 3p colour and 0.003 for mono, generally colour is ten times more. Modern lasers are generally around 10-20p a page depending on brand, obiously you need to take into account leases, electricity and paper. 1
ozydave Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Wow you guys are cheap! 16 pence for colour A3 8 pence mono A3 12 pence colour A4 5 pence mono A5 Not set by me by the way 1
rich_tech Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) ours are all sub 1p per page in terms of costs and similar to the costs shown at the beginning of the threads, we have ours on a mix of LEA and non-LEA KonicaMinolta MFD printers here (We are going over to the LEAs contract as they can get low low prices again to what we have agreed in the past slowly, as not all ours renew at the same time) Check with your LEA if possible, theres a specific framework that a lot of these copier companies should use if dealing with you on education and those costs are quite scandalous. Thats our costs in terms of what we pay to the companies for the leasing, we charge higher internally for our billing, Its 2p per colour 10 per bw A4 here with a 1.5 multiplier for duplex and double for A3 printing Edited June 19, 2014 by rich_tech 1
eyetea Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 We're currently looking at implementing printing costs here, and have recently installed Papercut to monitor this terms activity. We are hopefully going to work out student / teacher allowances with this + taking into account what other people here have suggested on here. We have about 6-7 different printer models here, and alongside that 2 small ricoh devices and a large one. I went through all the toner cartridges "expected life" and worked out the cost per page and rounded it up. The average worked out at 4p Mono 7p Colour just for toner costs. 1
tmcd35 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Why do you encourage teachers to photocopy more than print? I'm sure there's a good reason, I just haven't got a clue what it is... Photocopiers are generally cheaper per copy than printers. Actually we have a Konica print solution so our print and photocopy costs are now identical. It's a legacy thing for us from where printing used to be more expensive. We also want to encourage teachers to plan ahead a little more than half a school day. We want them to be using our repographics lady for larger print runs (>20ish copies).
RichCowell Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I've just been tasked with getting a couple of extra quotes for ours... I've got one company - but I'd be interested to get some recommendations of companies too... Thought I'd list our actual devices now, in case there are any companies looking who fancy getting in touch... Km BH250 (Donated – would need replacing, only in my office, doesn’t do a lot of printing) 0.79p KM C224 (0.4p/4p) KM C253 (0.75p/6.1p) Ricoh MP2550 (0.62p) Ricoh MP907ex (0.34p) Ricoh MPC300 * (0.55p/5.55p) Ricoh MPC300 * (0.55p/5.55p) Ricoh MPC300 * (0.55p/5.55p) Ricoh MPC300 * (0.54p/5.39p) Ricoh MPC300 * (0.54p/5.39p) Lexmark Cs748 (£50pcm inc 1000 mono prints 0.6/6p after) Lexmark Cs748 (£50pcm inc 1000 mono prints 0.6/6p after) Lexmark M1145 (£25pcm inc 750 mono prints 1p after) Lexmark M3150 (£30pcm inc 1500 mono prints 0.7p after) Lexmark M3150 (£30pcm inc 1500 mono prints 0.7p after) *=leased but don't have details of the lease cost to hand. 1
SiliconAlley_Karen Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Have just sent you a PM RichCowell Karen - - - Updated - - - Have just sent you a PM RichCowell Karen
witch Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 We have a networked colour photocopier in one school and the cost is significantly lower than the printers - much better quality too. We are currently looking at a managed print solution in my other school - a networked photocopier and four mono laser printers and the cost per page is around about the first few posts. We have looked at a local provider, Canon, Sharp and Ricoh so far
RichCowell Posted June 24, 2014 Posted June 24, 2014 We've used Lynbook - a local company for many years - and have one direct with Ricoh - we'd never go direct again! What an absolute nightmare we've had - despite the fact that we've got Ricoh's from the local supplier - we're just too small for Ricoh to take an interest in really... love their devices - hate their support... I've heard from a few sources that all the big manufacturers are the same with smaller clients... so it's not something we'd risk again...
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