Novalee Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 I'm not one for fads - far too lazy. But just seen a post by Mayin Bialik about this and it sounds pretty interesting. I don't eat nearly enough vegetables but I do like juice! So think I will try although not sure what to do exactly...there are companies selling juices (for crazy money!) online, but can I just make my own? And if so...what's a decent juice maker? Sure you guys can help out on that one - so many to choose and I don't want to waste money.
glennda Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 they can be good and you can lose weight, the problem comes when going back to solid foods you can just pile on the pounds quickly
timbo343 Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 Are you on about the juice plus thingy? The other half is on it and the one she is on is the powder one that you mix with milk. 35g of powder per 250ml of liquid. The person who recommended it has apparently lost a load of weight but im a bit unsure about it to be fair.
Novalee Posted May 8, 2014 Author Posted May 8, 2014 It's not so much about losing weight (okay a little bit - I'm not buying all new clothes in the next size up!) but I think it's a good way to have lots of vitamins - even if I just replaced lunch or something with juices. Just a little unsure of the concept when I see juices being sold online - don't they have to be fresh? I could just make them? I don't think it's the same one timbo as they are with milk? I have heard of those kind of things though - like Herbalife? (I know someone who distributes it - not something I've actually looked into though).
Greenbeast Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Eat the fruit, much healthier than just the juice. You're getting all the sugar without any of the other good stuff. I don't really get fads and detoxes, they just part of yo-yo dieting culture, glennda is right in that you'll likely lose weight but put it back on again. Just eat a clean diet high in meat and veg, and cut the processed rubbish. Dropping grains from your diet will be the biggest thing you can do and is long term personally sustainable unlike juice fasting.
Novalee Posted May 8, 2014 Author Posted May 8, 2014 Yeah but I think the idea is that you don't have fruit juices but more vegetables and greens such as kale etc. things which I anyway, rarely get into my cooking through lack of time and laziness. As I said, it's not a case of losing weight, but more a case of putting more 'good' things into my diet. I could drop grains, you're right - but I know I won't suddenly start preparing leafy vegetables to eat in their place.
witch Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Fruit juices are loaded with sugar and you shouldn't drink too much of them. Veggie juices are much better but a little bit less tasty. It is a good way to get your 5 (or is it 7 or 10) a day. BUT it isn't a long-term strategy and as has been said, the weight is likely to go back on. Replacing one meal a day with a juice is a better way - it will kick start your weight loss without being extreme and you will be able to sustain the loss when you go back to a healthy meal choice. Most juicers are fine - mine is a braun but tbf I got it off Freecycle so it didn't cost me anything. Have a look on there or maybe Gumtree for a second- hand one. I know giving up grains is a good thing ( and it is "protein and veg" @Greenbeast, not necessarily "meat and veg") but I have never managed it for very long - can't live without toast!
Novalee Posted May 8, 2014 Author Posted May 8, 2014 Ok - so are grains things like pasta and bread? I'm don't eat meat so can't just eat chicken like everyone else who tries to 'healthy eat'. I like that idea @witch - I think I will do that. So now to invest in a juicer. I'm hoping someone at work can lend me one (incase the novelty wears off - I can just give it back then!).
Greenbeast Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 ( and it is "protein and veg" @Greenbeast, not necessarily "meat and veg") ha ha fair enough, we won't get into the whole vegetarian debate Ok - so are grains things like pasta and bread? I'm don't eat meat so can't just eat chicken like everyone else who tries to 'healthy eat'. I like that idea @witch - I think I will do that. So now to invest in a juicer. I'm hoping someone at work can lend me one (incase the novelty wears off - I can just give it back then!). yes pasta and bread, wheat essentially, I would say is a key thing to drop, for many reasons, one primary one being that it is the main constituent of many unhealthy snacks
localzuk Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Outside of the medical definition of detox from drugs, alcohol or the like, the term "detox" for a diet makes no sense. What are you detoxing from? Your body handles disposal of things it doesn't want or need pretty well. Have a read of this - The Detox Scam: How to spot it, and how to avoid it « Science-Based Medicine If you simply want to eat better, great. Don't focus on juice - as others have said, juices are full of sugars but none of the "good stuff" (dietary fibre, many of the vitamins etc...). Eat more veg than fruit (unless you want to ruin your teeth through acidic fruit and sugar).
creese Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 yes pasta and bread, wheat essentially, I would say is a key thing to drop, for many reasons, one primary one being that it is the main constituent of many unhealthy snacks You might want to take a look at this in regard to wheat. I lost 4 stone by cutting out wheat a few years a go.
Danp Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Ok - so are grains things like pasta and bread? I'm don't eat meat so can't just eat chicken like everyone else who tries to 'healthy eat'. I like that idea @witch - I think I will do that. So now to invest in a juicer. I'm hoping someone at work can lend me one (incase the novelty wears off - I can just give it back then!). I have one if you want for a fiver. Picked it up a couple of years ago, my daughter loved it but the novelty wore off and it's been in the cupboard taking up space since.
Badzeye Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 I would assess what your goals are. Why do you want to do this? You don't need to "detox" your body it already has organs dedicated to that which do a fantastic job. If you are trying to lose weight I wouldn't recommend it either as simply cutting down your calories if far easier and you will feel fuller eating food rather than juice. If it just to be healthier running and weightlifting 3 times a week will do much more for you than drinking liters of sugar.
machin05 Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Why would anyone want to deprive themselves of pasta and bread???
localzuk Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Why would anyone want to deprive themselves of pasta and bread??? I'd keel over without pasta. It is the best food ever. So much you can do with it. Mmmmm.
machin05 Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 I'd keel over without pasta. It is the best food ever. So much you can do with it. Mmmmm. Not to mention the glory of pizza!
Danp Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Not to mention the glory of pizza! Mmmmmm pizza.... Should be having pizza at lunch today but no gas = no cooked food today
dhicks Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Just a little unsure of the concept when I see juices being sold online - don't they have to be fresh? I could just make them? I don't think it's the same one timbo as they are with milk? I have heard of those kind of things though - like Herbalife? (I know someone who distributes it - not something I've actually looked into though). As already pointed out, juice can be bad for your teeth - your best option is probably to drink a glass first thing in the morning, then clean your teeth afterwards. If you want a diatary supplement, you're probably best off going to a health food shop, the staff there should be able to advise you better. I've found that plain chopped fruit is the easiest way to eat more fruit, and keeps much better in an air-tight container in the fridge than I thought it would - I don't know what they do to apples and banaas in the supermarkets these days, but they don't seem to spoil after being chopped for a couple of days. You can always add some bits of cheese or suasage, too, just to add a bit of flavour, a whole tub of chopped fruit being a little dull.
hardtailstar Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 I looked into this and just having a 'Juice' for breakfast and changing my diet in regards to cutting out the bad foods, not made any drinks yet but just cutting out take aways and fizzy drinks ive lost weight.
Novalee Posted May 8, 2014 Author Posted May 8, 2014 I have one if you want for a fiver. Picked it up a couple of years ago, my daughter loved it but the novelty wore off and it's been in the cupboard taking up space since. ooo which one is it @Danp? I am good at cutting things from my diet (no chocolate for Lent) but it has to be something specific or it doesn't happen. If I say 'no direct bread or pasta' then I can probably do that. I tried cheese once, but got tired of it appearing in random places so it would have to be 'cheese' not 'cheese hidden in pesto which is on the salmon I just bought' haha. Detox is the wrong word - it's just the one which is bandied about online for it. I just want the easiest way of eating more vegetables.
localzuk Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Detox is the wrong word - it's just the one which is bandied about online for it. I just want the easiest way of eating more vegetables. Easiest way? Stir Fries. Chop a bunch of veg up. Chuck it in a hot wok, with a dribble of oil (small dribble!), let it cook for a bit then add a bit of miso paste or some low sodium soy sauce and voila, tasty and healthy. Edited May 8, 2014 by localzuk
Danp Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 ooo which one is it @Danp? I am good at cutting things from my diet (no chocolate for Lent) but it has to be something specific or it doesn't happen. If I say 'no direct bread or pasta' then I can probably do that. I tried cheese once, but got tired of it appearing in random places so it would have to be 'cheese' not 'cheese hidden in pesto which is on the salmon I just bought' haha. Detox is the wrong word - it's just the one which is bandied about online for it. I just want the easiest way of eating more vegetables. Errr, a silver one with black bits... Will have a look tonight. 1
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