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Sheridan

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I'm planning the upgrade of our 10.6.8 server and Mac suite to 10.9. I've done a test upgrade on a Mac client which worked (apart from the ad/od was broken as the server is still 10.6.8)

 

I just want to check I'm getting my facts correct here, I'm planning to:

 

1) Upgrade the server to 10.9 using the free upgrade from the app store

2) Purchase the server app (£13.99) and that should then upgrade the server component on the server

3) Setup the ad/od stuff again on the server

4) Prepare a client to 10.9, and then use deploystudio to copy it to the others

 

Have I missed anything, or totally misjudged the complexity of this?

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I'm not an expert here, and I may be completely wrong, but as far as I'm aware, there was a rather big change from 10.6 to 10.7 server. (Not so much from 10.7 to 10.8 and 10.9) So, an upgrade might break quite a few things. Also, I set up my 10.7 server from scratch and the AD/OD setup was slightly different in that there was a few bits of trust related stuff that you needed to do, but the main principle was still the same. It might be worth trying the setup in a test (virtual) environment before going for broke in the real environment.
Sheridan

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I've only done a test upgrade on a client so I'm expecting issues with the server - its just we only have the media for 10.6 and I don't want to buy 10.7 just to skip to 10.9!

 

I'll be backing up the server before I try anything!

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The Server App for Mavericks is simply an App and not an OS as Snow Leopard Server was. This means that '10.9 Server' won't necessarily be upgrading the server components found in 10.6 Server. Everything 10.9 Server needs is contained within the Server app itself. With 10.6 Server important config and data directories were sprayed all over the place most of which were hidden in the UNIX sub-system. When Server App is installed and you run through the setup assistant it will create a Server folder in the top level Library folder and store all the configuration and service directories there instead. Although Apple says migration from Snow Leopard Server to Mavericks is possible the Migration Assistant won't necessarily transfer everything to do with the previous server version in a fit state if at all.

 

If it was me and assuming the usual AD-OD integration most educational institutions go for I would export policies for OD Groups and/or OD Computer Groups using WorkGroup Manager first and then start from scratch with the planned server upgrade. Obviously back-up deployment data first plus any important user data that may be on there although I'm not sure why you would have any user data on the Mac server to be honest but you never know?

 

Only a suggestion but once you've done the above install Mavericks on an externally attached drive and do a clean/fresh installation. This gives you the added benefit of moving back to 10.6 Server in case things don't work out and if they do you can simply use CarbonCopyCloner to clone the now 'live' and fully operational and tested 10.9 Server to the internal drive and take it from there.

 

Antonio Rocco (ACN)

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Arthur

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it's just we only have the media for 10.6 and I don't want to buy 10.7 just to skip to 10.9!

Download 10.9.2 from the Mac App Store on the Mac running 10.6.8, create a bootable USB flash drive using either DiskMaker X or the createinstallmedia command in Terminal and then do a clean install of Mavericks on the server. That's what we did to start with (since the server we had before was running 10.5 and not integrated with AD and it was easier to start from scratch).

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Sheridan

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Cheers guys - looks like I've got a few different options to try!

 

I'm inclined to export the preferences and then do a fresh install of 10.9, and then re-import the preferences (assuming this is possible between 10.6.8 and 10.9) and then just setup OD/AD again from scratch. I can then sort out the clients.

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Cheers guys - looks like I've got a few different options to try!

 

I'm inclined to export the preferences and then do a fresh install of 10.9, and then re-import the preferences (assuming this is possible between 10.6.8 and 10.9) and then just setup OD/AD again from scratch. I can then sort out the clients.

 

What services did you have running on 10.6.8 Server? Something in my mind is saying that you can't import preferences, apart from OD policies (I could be completely wrong).

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I'm struggling to get the 10.9 installer, I assume it sticks the file somewhere before the install starts, but I can't find it?

 

It should be in the Applications folder. "Install OS X Mavericks" or something similar.

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Sheridan

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Found it! Must have looked there 10 times and missed it! I'm trying Diskmaker X now - seems to take a long time but I'll be patient and see if it creates a USB bootable installer.

 

Not having much luck with either DiskMaker or createinstall media - they both seem to get to a point of 'Copying Files', and thats it. The USb drive only shows about 115Mb used and that never changes. Back to the drawing board! Brand new USB pen as well, unless it doesn't like a 32Gb one!

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I've never had issues with DiskMaker X, but it does take an awfully long time of looking like it's not doing anything before it suddenly completes.
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Hi Sheridan - that's a big jump in OS versions for a server! I can't offer anything better than agreeing with the method AntonioRocco advises. Get yourself a seperate HDD and install Mavericks on it as the target device. The problem from an upgrade is not what happens immediately, but what comes later on down the line.

 

My question is: why are you updating to Mavericks? Is it because it's free? Because something in your environment needs it or there is an expectancy to do it?

Sheridan

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The reason we are moving to Mavericks is because we need various parts of OSX updated to work properly with certain software (music department stuff!) and we can't just update the clients as they use od/ad and preferences dished from the server. The server is only there really for preferences and shared printing so installing from scratch is an option that I might try first. We can't just upgrade to 10.7 as that would involved buying the licenses which isn't possible at the moment.

 

I've had to give up on diskmaker and createinstallmedia - neither seems to work. After about 1.5 hours they both have copied 115mb to the flash drive (I've now tried 3 seperate drives) so its going to take about 3 weeks to copy the 5gb image over!

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I'm planning the upgrade of our 10.6.8 server and Mac suite to 10.9. I've done a test upgrade on a Mac client which worked (apart from the ad/od was broken as the server is still 10.6.8)

 

I just want to check I'm getting my facts correct here, I'm planning to:

 

1) Upgrade the server to 10.9 using the free upgrade from the app store

2) Purchase the server app (£13.99) and that should then upgrade the server component on the server

3) Setup the ad/od stuff again on the server

4) Prepare a client to 10.9, and then use deploystudio to copy it to the others

 

Have I missed anything, or totally misjudged the complexity of this?

 

I haven't read every post on the thread but I have just done this and set up a brand new network while doing so (Wiped the server and started from scratch) You haven't missed anything off that is just what we did but with fresh OS installs not upgrades. One thing to mention though you may find the update won't download this could be due to how certain county's are setup or there's a cache server somewhere on your LA network. It helps to have a physical copy of Mavericks so you may want to order one!

Ours works so much better now, a clean version of Mavericks is fast to say the least and after configuring workgroup manager and the rest of the stuff it's ace, I would go as far as saying Macs are easier to manage than Windows machines, although they aren't to fond of proxy servers for some unknown reason!

 

If you have any issues you can always PM me I'll try my best to help :)

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Mikee_Amsys

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Ahhh, I see. Tough spot to be in. Do you have a spare device to create your test build on even? The reason that caution is the best way, is because some people hit brick walls going from 10.8-10.9 - Mavericks has taken onboard driver signing more seriously, so shared printing might take a hit or need a review. The upgrade to SMB2 causes some problems for Windows devices if they look at the share, so consider that if you're having to dish out SMB to Windows users.
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I've had to give up on diskmaker and createinstallmedia - neither seems to work. After about 1.5 hours they both have copied 115mb to the flash drive (I've now tried 3 seperate drives) so its going to take about 3 weeks to copy the 5gb image over!

 

Give the manual disk utility guide on this page a try as a last resort.

Sheridan

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Cheers, I think I'll be going for the full fresh install of both server and clients - just to make a clean start! As long as the od/ad authentication and proxy authentication works (it does now, but with a login dialogue) then I'll be happy.

 

Just got to get a 10.9 installer on a usb pen now!

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Cheers, I think I'll be going for the full fresh install of both server and clients - just to make a clean start! As long as the od/ad authentication and proxy authentication works (it does now, but with a login dialogue) then I'll be happy.

 

Just got to get a 10.9 installer on a usb pen now!

 

*IMPORTANT*

Before you do a anything else.....stop and read this thread

 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/macenterprise/B0R5-WTGIrM

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In my experience i went for a server upgrade from 10.7 to 10.9 and a started from scratch with a fresh install for the clients, although i now wish id have gone for a fresh install of both server and client. Too many niggles left with an upgrade.

 

I used this How to make a bootable Mavericks install drive | Macworld

 

and option 1.

 

Hope that helps, once id created one image i used DS to roll out.

 

lol, that's exactly what I just posted here! :p

Sheridan

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Well - I finally got a 10.9 installer on a USB pen (using DiskmakerX) after several attempts. I've now got a nice clean client machine to image, but I see what you mean about 10.9 being a bit of a pain. Proxy authentication seems to be broken (constantly bringing up ntlm authentication for our smoothwall) and generally running very slow/timing out. I can't even access some smb shares (on 2008 server and also an old 2003 server) I'll do some more testing but if its going to be this bad then the next stage is to try 10.7, stick with 10.6.8 or even stick windows on them!
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Sorry guys, too busy to read all the posts ;)

@Sheridan I also have the same issues you describe, the most annoying one is, it will map those smb shares, but only after saying its been unsucessful, click ok to the error message, and then it maps. This is accessing shares on 2003 server

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