Vote YES on Independence (of Cornwall)

[GREED]

BBC News - Cornish people granted minority status within UK

 

Lets all jump on this combine harvester now!

[Domino]

ooh-arr, ooh-arr

[LeMarchand]

Maybe now they can go back to wrecking and claim it's an ancient Cornish tradition protected by law.

[GREED]

ooh-arr, ooh-arr

 

I don't know why but that just creased me up! Plenty of rep for you sir!

 

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Maybe now they can go back to wrecking and claim it's an ancient Cornish tradition protected by law.

 

It will account for 65% of their GDP... according to the Daily Mail... :D

[E_G_R2]

English People (emmets) just don't understand, try these sentiments in Galicia or Brittany and see if you get out alive

[featured_spectre]

All you need now is a union with Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Basque Spain, and Brittany and you can have a true Celtic nation

[Trapper]

This is why humanity is doomed. We should be coming together, not going back to neolithic tribal groupings.

[Andrew_C]

It will account for 65% of their GDP...

and 35% from the export of pasties.

[GREED]

try these sentiments in ... Brittany and see if you get out alive

 

You want me on a ferry?

 

 

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This is why humanity is doomed. We should be coming together, not going back to neolithic tribal groupings.

 

Me Like, Me Like Lots Ugg Ugg UGG!

[localzuk]

Its pretty interesting to me just how different Manx Gaelic and Cornish are from each other. They're both Celtic languages, but the overlap is so little that the 2 languages are completely different.

 

I like Celtic languages, and do think they should be taught. However, they don't help in the modern "globalised" world.

[GREED]

Don't forget the pasty tax...

[GREED]

Its pretty interesting to me just how different Manx Gaelic and Cornish are from each other. They're both Celtic languages, but the overlap is so little that the 2 languages are completely different.

 

I like Celtic languages, and do think they should be taught. However, they don't help in the modern "globalised" world.

 

I very much respect local customs and cultures. However why is there a push to REVIVE a language (language being a medium to communicate to others with) that is hardly spoken now and dwindling? Other than to further segregate? How is it useful when no one else will use it?

[featured_spectre]

Quite. Welsh is fine, as a large preportion of Welsh People I know speak it fluently and have customers that only speak welsh (they were never raised to speak English). As for Scottish and Irish, I don't think many people speak it (in proportion to the population).

[Garacesh]

Quite. Welsh is fine, as a large preportion of Welsh People I know speak it fluently and have customers that only speak welsh (they were never raised to speak English). As for Scottish and Irish, I don't think many people speak it (in proportion to the population).

 

Well colour me uninformed, I didn't even realise there were Scottish or Irish languages, only accents (although in my recent trip to Glasgow I was rather shocked to find people actually write with a Scottish accent. I legitimately saw someone write "Ah cannae do that.")

 

I have to agree with @GREED, I'm all for preserving history, it needs to be done. History and heritage are important to a lot of people. But to actively try to protect or revive something that's dwindling out..

It's like not the ecosystem where a species needs to be revived because it plays a vital role. If a language is dieing, let it. Remember it. Celebrate it if you want. But let's not try and revive it just for heritage sake. If a language dies out, there's usually a progressive and logical reason for that, and it shouldn't be categorised as explicitly 'bad'.

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[matt40k]

How is it useful when no one else will use it?

 

It gets it some attention if nothing else, failing that, give something for historians to research in the future

 

PS: Why do I now want to bury some completely random items in the ground? Perhaps a "English to IT Geek" book

[speckytecky]

Big problem for us native Cornish is we have in many cases been priced out of our County of birth. I just wonder how many true Cornish people there are left? This latest European gesture seems a hugely futile waste of money to me. It's a bit like the stupid regulations saying that Cornish pasties can't be called Cornish pasties unless they are made in Cornwall. Last I checked a so called cellophane big brand Cornish pasty it's list of ingredients contained all manner of additives. Add to that at least one founder / owner of a very well marketed Pasty company roots are the Indian Continent unless my eyes were deceiving me! Worst thing that happened to Cornwall was that road being carved down it's backbone.

[penfold_99]

and 35% from the export of pasties.

 

Cornish Pasties don't come from Cornwall, they get made elsewhere driven over the border and driven back. (all legal)

Apparently the Cornish fairies make the price jump by £2 at the border.

[LeMarchand]

Big problem for us native Cornish is we have in many cases been priced out of our County of birth.

 

The Cornish don't have the monopoly on that!

[E_G_R2]

I have to agree with @GREED, I'm all for preserving history, it needs to be done. History and heritage are important to a lot of people. But to actively try to protect or revive something that's dwindling out..

It's like not the ecosystem where a species needs to be revived because it plays a vital role. If a language is dieing, let it. Remember it. Celebrate it if you want. But let's not try and revive it just for heritage sake. If a language dies out, there's usually a progressive and logical reason for that, and it shouldn't be categorised as explicitly 'bad'.

 

By that argument then the Welsh language would have died out as well and it nearly did appart from the North and West without the aid that it recieved. How would a Yorkshire person feel if their dialect died?

[CAM]

Quite. Welsh is fine, as a large preportion of Welsh People I know speak it fluently and have customers that only speak welsh (they were never raised to speak English). As for Scottish and Irish, I don't think many people speak it (in proportion to the population).

 

An amusing fact is the military used to have Welsh fluent people sending orders round. If the enemy intercepted them they had no way of knowing what the orders contained because Welsh speakers were very rare outside of Wales. Different world today though.

[E_G_R2]

The Cornish don't have the monopoly on that!

 

Tell me about it, just back from a visit to whats left of the Family in North Devon, no blokes left we all migrated for work reasons a long time ago.

[GREED]

By that argument then the Welsh language would have died out as well and it nearly did appart from the North and West without the aid that it recieved. How would a Yorkshire person feel if their dialect died?

 

Surely there is a problem if a language needs specific support to help it survive?

[sted]

By that argument then the Welsh language would have died out as well and it nearly did appart from the North and West without the aid that it recieved. How would a Yorkshire person feel if their dialect died?

 

a dialect isnt a language though. Though i would like an independent yorkshire anything to get away from the muppets in westminster

[GREED]

a dialect isnt a language though. Though i would like an independent yorkshire anything to get away from the muppets in westminster

 

We could become the UnUnited States of England

[E_G_R2]

Surely there is a problem if a language needs specific support to help it survive?

 

Yes but also no because it was central gov that persued the destruction of these laguages in the first place. Welsh was a very common language in the mid 1800's but died out through it not being taught in school and not recognised or used by local gov.. Some people have refered to this as 'language genocide' and has been used on many other languages as well. Welsh has revived through it being taught in schools, road signs etc..