burnsyb0y Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Hello everyone, i was wondering if any of you could be so kind as to give your experiences with the parts i have bought to upgrade my PC. My main current specs are: i5 3570k @ standard speed MSI 7850 Twin Frozr III 2GB 8GB Corsair vengeance 1600mhz ram 500GB Seagate barracuda Asus p877v lx mobo I will be adding:MSI R9 270x Gaming 2g edition Kingston SSDnow 120gb sata3 Corsair Raptor HS40 7.1 gaming headset Corsair Raptor K30 gaming keyboard I am upgrading as my gpu just does not seem to able to play games at the settings i want with the fps i want (bf4,dayZ,Skyrim,Planetside 2,crysis3 and farcry3) and for some reason skyrim just does not seem to work with this card, the fps is fine but the mouse controls are completely off and unusable, this is the case for a few other games too. Cheers guys.
featured_spectre Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 SSD wont make too much of a difference unless you are installing games direct too it or the OS. Depends on your choice. Graphics card should make everything a walk in the park. keyboard and headset is all down to personal preference.
Danp Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 How do those drives compare to the Samsung EVOs?
featured_spectre Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Samsung would be the way to go for me, as simply the kingston stuff is behind in firmware so would likely have a higher failure ratio...also the specs are as follows. Samsung evo specs 540MB/s Sustained Sequential Write 410MB/s 4KB Random Read Up to 94,000 IOPS 4KB Random Write Up to 35,000 IOPS MTBF1,500,000 hours. Kingston V300 SPECS Up to 450 MB/s Max Sequential Write Up to 450 MB/s 4KB Random Read Up to 85,000 IOPS 4KB Random Write Up to 55,000 IOPS MTBF1,000,000 hours Edited February 7, 2014 by featured_spectre
burnsyb0y Posted February 7, 2014 Author Posted February 7, 2014 For me personally i dont see the point in paying that much more for slightly better specs, as it is i have not even seen/used an SSD yet so im sure i will be more than happy with the performance compared to my HDD. Granted i am only that way because my wages are garbage
mac_shinobi Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Samsung would be the way to go for me, as simply the kingston stuff is behind in firmware so would likely have a higher failure ratio...also the specs are as follows. Samsung evo specs 540MB/s Sustained Sequential Write 410MB/s 4KB Random Read Up to 94,000 IOPS 4KB Random Write Up to 35,000 IOPS MTBF1,500,000 hours. Kingston V300 SPECS Up to 450 MB/s Max Sequential Write Up to 450 MB/s 4KB Random Read Up to 85,000 IOPS 4KB Random Write Up to 55,000 IOPS MTBF1,000,000 hours Is there much of a price difference between the Evo and Pro versions of the samsung SSD Line up ?
Danp Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 For me personally i dont see the point in paying that much more for slightly better specs, as it is i have not even seen/used an SSD yet so im sure i will be more than happy with the performance compared to my HDD. Granted i am only that way because my wages are garbage What is the price difference though? Put it this way, we have been fitting the EVOs in machines around the school.
featured_spectre Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 171.11 < roughly how many months usage you will get from the Samsung (14 years 3 months ish) 114.78 < roughly how many months usage you will get from the Kingston (9 years 6 months ish) Factor in the read/write speeds, the samsung gives you better longevity and better performance. However I can attest for a personal machine going from a HDD to SSD is a huge leap! 1
featured_spectre Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Evo and Pro price difference is around £10-£55 depending on which model you buy @mac_shinobi 1
featured_spectre Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I should add, it also depends on where you buy from and what sales they have on 1
burnsyb0y Posted February 7, 2014 Author Posted February 7, 2014 Fair point, i did not consider that. Will be samsungs from now on then if we need any SSDs for work machines.
3s-gtech Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 While the R9 270X is a good card, it's a relatively modest upgrade from the 7850 (though may make the difference between unplayable and playable in those games). See if you can get one with a decent overclock to make the most of it. Your old card is worth good money and will take much of the sting out of the cost of the new.
difinity Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 It's also worth remembering Samsung make their own semiconductors, Kingston just buy in the cheapest.
newpersn Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) I got the Kingston my computer at work. Works Fine. Boots up W8 within a few seconds (even with all the crap i got on here) SIMS > 10secs Office (word, outlook) normaly instant. Anything else slightly slow as i run a 1tb 2nd drive. My downside my motherboard is only SATA3. not the faster one. Edited February 7, 2014 by newpersn 1
LosOjos Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Also worth thinking about your PSU - that 270X uses roughly 50w more power than the 7850 (reference cards) so you may want to check your PSU can handle the increased load, this tool will help you with that: Thermaltake Power Supply Calculator EDIT: although the site recommends leaving load at 90%, I always put it to 100% to make sure I have sufficient head room. Also, make sure you read the notes on capacitor ageing and set it accordingly (I generally set this at 30%) Edited February 7, 2014 by LosOjos 4
mac_shinobi Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I got the Kingston my computer at work. Works Fine. Boots up W8 within a few seconds (even with all the crap i got on here) SIMS > 10secs Office (word, outlook) normaly instant. Anything else slightly slow as i run a 1tb 2nd drive. My downside my motherboard is only SATA3. not the faster one. I thought SATA 3 aka 6gbps was the faster one, SATA 2 aka 3gbps was the slower one ?
newpersn Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I thought SATA 3 aka 6gbps was the faster one, SATA 2 aka 3gbps was the slower one ? SATA I (revision 1.x) interface, formally known as SATA 1.5Gb/s, is the first generation SATA interface running at 1.5 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 150MB/s. SATA II (revision 2.x) interface, formally known as SATA 3Gb/s, is a second generation SATA interface running at 3.0 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 300MB/s. SATA III (revision 3.x) interface, formally known as SATA 6Gb/s, is a third generation SATA interface running at 6.0Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 600MB/s. This interface is backwards compatible with SATA 3 Gb/s interface. SATA II specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I ports. SATA III specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I and SATA II ports. However, the maximum speed of the drive will be slower due to the lower speed limitations of the port. Example: SanDisk Extreme SSD, which supports SATA 6Gb/s interface and when connected to SATA 6Gb/s port, can reach up to 550/520MB/s sequential read and sequential write speed rates respectively. However, when the drive is connected to SATA 3 Gb/s port, it can reach up to 285/275MB/s sequential read and sequential write speed rates respectively. My Bad. opps i got them mixed up... 1
mac_shinobi Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 My Bad. opps i got them mixed up... I thought I was missing something like SATA 4 or something like a newer revision of SATA lol
mac_shinobi Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 SSD 840 Pro Series - 256 GB 2.5 inch MZ-7PD256 | Samsung SSD - TECH SPECS Link above was the specs for the 256gb model , quote from tech specs tab : General Features Client PCs, Enterprise Computing 256GB (1GB = 1 Billionbyte by IDEMA) 2.5 inch Form Factor SATA 6Gb/s Interface, compatible with SATA 3Gb/s & SATA 1.5Gb/s interface 100 x 69.85 x 6.8 mm Dimension Max 53.5g Weight Samsung 2x nm Toggle DDR 2.0 NAND Flash Memory (400Mbps) Samsung 3-core MDX Controller Samsung 512MB Low Power DDR2 SDRAM cache memory [h=2]Performance[/h] Up to 540MB/sec Sequential Read* Performance may vary based on system hardware & configuration Up to 520MB/sec Sequential Write* Performance may vary based on system hardware & configuration Up to 100000 IOPS Random Read* Performance may vary based on system hardware & configuration Up to 90000 IOPS Random Write* Performance may vary based on system hardware & configuration Up to 9900 IOPS Random Read* Performance may vary based on system hardware & configuration Up to 31000 IOPS Random Write* Performance may vary based on system hardware & configuration [h=2]Warranty[/h] 5 years limited (client PC use only, 1 year data retention) * 5 years limited warranty assumes a workload of 40GB/day (host writes, 3-month data retention) for enterprise applications. Workloads in excess of 40GB/day are not covered under warranty
featured_spectre Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 to be fair, my first day (which would clone my HDDs) would ruin that 40GB limit in 1 hit. Would copy over maybe close to 250GB. lol
LosOjos Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 to be fair, my first day (which would clone my HDDs) would ruin that 40GB limit in 1 hit. Would copy over maybe close to 250GB. lol I assume it means an average 40GB a day, i.e. "5 years" actually means a total workload of approximately 57 TB
LosOjos Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 ah well in that case I am fine Depends how tight they are really, if you had it die on you on day two you'd hope they'd replace it as being obviously faulty but if they turned around and said you were only covered up to 80GB then you're up the creek lol. I imagine it would be seen as an obvious fault though and replaced, they're just covering their backs because they dropped the "enterprise" bomb in their spec list lol
burnsyb0y Posted February 10, 2014 Author Posted February 10, 2014 Bloody DPD Was supposed to be delivered on Saturday but the delivery guy just posted the missed delivery slip and did'nt even bother knocking. Cant wait to go pick it up from my local depot tonight!
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