Little-Miss Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) So far, i've tried to change my password about 6 times... It needs 12 Characters 3 Punctuation 3 Uppercase 3 Numerical... I'm waiting for it to ask me for a DNA sample... I haven't got time for this! EDIT: Thankfully this is only for Domain console users. I haven't got the time or the energy at the moment to explain it to others (who have never used it) so will change them to normal users for now... Edited January 7, 2014 by Little-Miss
synaesthesia Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Ah well, good reason to have it AD synced That way you can tell your GPO security policy to only require inside leg measurement, cup size and IQ! 1
john Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Ah well, good reason to have it AD synced That way you can tell your GPO security policy to only require inside leg measurement, cup size and IQ! *has visions of @Little-Miss smothering her webcam to allow AD to check the size of her inside leg and cups!* 1
bossman Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 @synaesthesia: LMAO hehe! @Little-Miss: Cup size? So funny for a Tuesday well done that man!
Michael Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 So far, i've tried to change my password about 6 times... It needs 12 Characters 3 Punctuation 3 Uppercase 3 Numerical... I'm waiting for it to ask me for a DNA sample... I haven't got time for this! 12 characters? Time to move to Office 365. If you need my help, give me a shout
synaesthesia Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 We're in the process of setting up & trialling Office 365 for staff. If it wasn't for AD syncing password requirements want a short essay!
Little-Miss Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 haha omg! I don't know whether to laugh or cry... See Edit. It's only for domain admin users... I'd love to move from Zimbra. The thought of changing the staff over at the moment is horrific...
Michael Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 What's unclear is can you only access the Zimbra Admin page from within school still, due to IP filters in place as before? If that's the case, why are 12 characters is necessary at all?
Alis_Klar Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Anyone know how quickly Link2ICT are rolling out Zimbra 8 to schools? Should probably call them.
andy_b Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Access to the admin console is now possible externally. The password also expires every 30 days IIRC - so come up with an easy to adapt password!
synaesthesia Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Oh, that's an external thing! Feel sorry for you We're glad to have Zimbra in house and therefore full control over it but storage limitations are coming to a head now Really, really like Zimbra compared to O365 which is modern for the sake of modern
Little-Miss Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 yep, external....though at the moment, i cant access it at all. Domain Admins can now access the Domain Admin console outside of the BGfL network by browsing to https://mail.link2ict.org:9071/zimbraAdmin/ This demands a higher level of security and the Domain Administrator passwords in turn require a greater level of complexity. With this in mind we have adopted the Birmingham City Council standard for external passwords which is as follows: Your password must be at least 12 characters long and must contain: 3 UPPER CASE LETTERS 3 lower case letters 3 Numbers 3 'special characters' (:@~<>? etc) This password must be changed on a monthly basis - you will be prompted to change this once it has expired.
ChrisJ Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 3 UPPER CASE LETTERS 3 lower case letters 3 Numbers 3 'special characters' (:@~<>? etc) This password must be changed on a monthly basis - you will be prompted to change this once it has expired. I hadn't spotted the monthly basis bit. That's a bit annoying. Relevant XKCD
Michael Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I do think a complex 12 character password on a 30 day basis is OTT in my opinion. If a large corporation like Microsoft sets password requirements consisting of 8 characters, with one capital letter and one number, why isn't this good enough for Birmingham City Council? 12 characters of that complexity on a 30 day basis is just completely unnecessary. I'd question just how many people would start writing the password down, defeating the objective completely...
Michael Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Just to rub salt in the wound they've rolled it out here and then sent out this email.... Dear Colleague, As you will be aware, Link2ICT has begun the process of migrating customers from Zimbra 5 to the newer Zimbra 8 platform. This was a necessary requirement because of stability issues and Zimbra 8 offers a more secure solution. We have however experienced some minor configuration issues during the migration and in order to address these we have decided to put any further migrations on hold while this is resolved. How does this affect you? There will be no change in your mail service and you will be able to continue using Zimbra 5 with noticeably fewer issues. When will we be migrated? As soon as we have resolved the configuration issues in Zimbra 8 we will make a decision as to when the migrations will recommence and you will be notified in due course. We are also looking at other cloud-based email solutions to determine whether these would better suit the needs of our customers and we may offer these as a future alternative. I have heard good things about Zimbra 8, can I migrate anyway? If you would still like to migrate to Zimbra 8, please contact the Link2ICT Service Desk and we will contact you to discuss your migration process. If you have any questions, please contact the Link2ICT Service Desk on 0121 303 5100/[email protected] or log into the Link2ICT Support Portal. Make up your frigging minds please!!!! Hmmm maybe just maybe someone at Link2ICT HQ as thought... why are we doing this when we could get schools onto Office 365 or Google? I think this most likely is to do with e-mails not arriving once they've been upgraded to Zimbra 8. The time and costs involved trying to resolve these issues... it just isn't worth it.
andy_b Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Who said this ever?? I have heard good things about Zimbra 8, can I migrate anyway?
Michael Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Who said this ever?? Someone living under a rock probably... 1
synaesthesia Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Zimbra > O365. Period. I can't see how anyone would think otherwise, apart from fans of Windows 8 shiny shiny horrible UI rubbish. Can't vouch for 8 but Zimbra 7 we use is far superior.
Michael Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I've just replied to someone who's using Zimbra 8 (and I'm using O365). When replying to them, I'm prompted for a username/password. Cancelling it gets rid of the message, but has anyone else noticed this?
ChrisJ Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 So the 30 days since I entered my original 12 characters, at least 3 uppercase, at least 3 numbers and at least 3 punctuation marks password has gone. I now have to make a new one. Easy enough I think.... Log into webmail interface to get the "Your password has expired, please provide a new one" and enter a new one. Standard 3 boxes - Original, New and New again. Fill them all out, press submit. "Sorry, your original password is incorrect" Fill out boxes again. "Sorry, your original password is incorrect" Hmm, bit odd. Open another browser, log into webmail. "The username or password is incorrect." FFS!!!! Try new password incase it did change. "The username or password is incorrect." Great... so now I appear to be locked out of my email.
Little-Miss Posted February 10, 2014 Author Posted February 10, 2014 YAY! I've just had to ring them to unlock me!! hahaha
Michael Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 YAY! I've just had to ring them to unlock me!! hahaha On a seriousness note, how can they possibly verify you are who you say you are over the phone? This in itself would be considered a security risk. This is another strong point of Office 365. All admin accounts also require you to register a mobile number. Lose or forget your password? Not a problem, reset instructions are texted to you.
ChrisJ Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 What is appears to be is that if you use too similar a password (I had just changed the numbers) your account gets locked out. So remember! It's a totally different 12 character, at least 3 uppercase, at least 3 numbers and at least 3 punctuation marks password. Well that's easy to remember! 0118 999 881 99 9119 725 3 1
ChrisJ Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 how can they possibly verify you are who you say you are over the phone? Standard verification is usually to get another person in school to send an email asking to reset your password. But a lot of the time the person on the phone has spoken to the person calling a few times (I know I spoke to you quite often back in the day) and will sort things out there and then.
Michael Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 What is appears to be is that if you use too similar a password (I had just changed the numbers) your account gets locked out. So remember! It's a totally different 12 character, at least 3 uppercase, at least 3 numbers and at least 3 punctuation marks password. Well that's easy to remember! 0118 999 881 99 9119 725 3 All other websites that adopt this policy usually tell you this on screen. For example Office 365 tells you, you can't have any part of your name as your password... the point is, it clearly tells you this on screen and doesn't just lock you out
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