3s-gtech Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 A laptop at around the £400 mark that would run GTA 5 (if and when it came out on PC)? That's tough! You really are looking at either an AMD APU with the highest possible spec (like the A8-5557M or similar with HD7600G) or taking your chances with Intel's HD graphics - be certain that you get at least HD4000 and a decent CPU. Not all of these parts are created equal, and many are downclocked/cut down - "Beware, that the HD Graphics 4000 is used with different clock speeds depending on the CPU model."
LosOjos Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) As others have said, GTAV isn't on PC yet so it's hard to say exactly what you'd need, though with it being on Xbox & PS3 any mid-range GPU should be up to it. The problem is that laptops are a hell of a lot more expensive and a damn site harder/more expensive/limited to upgrade too - hence the fact I never buy them. Is there a reason he's dead set on a laptop? He'll get a LOT more for his money if he builds a PC. Edited September 18, 2013 by LosOjos
hallb15 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Soooo. He really hasn't got £500 Have you ALL got really expensive kit then? Has anyone got anything cheaper that runs something like GTA5 really well? I am at a loss here and fast losing my credibility in the family!! Have you got an old laptop you could trade in? Toshiba are offering £100 cash back on some i5 and i7 models. Trade In - Toshiba
X-13 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Is there a reason he's dead set on a laptop? He'll get a LOT more for his money if he builds a PC. If it's for work/school related video editing [mentioned in OP] then the portability is probably a major factor.
LosOjos Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 If it's for work/school related video editing [mentioned in OP] then the portability is probably a major factor. I suppose, but then it's only really an issue if you need to take it in to school/uni with you. Don't get me wrong, if portability is an issue then laptops are great obviously, but if you're only ever going to use it at home then you can get a lot more bang for your buck with a PC.
mac_shinobi Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 I suppose, but then it's only really an issue if you need to take it in to school/uni with you. Don't get me wrong, if portability is an issue then laptops are great obviously, but if you're only ever going to use it at home then you can get a lot more bang for your buck with a PC. When you say PC as in desktop :-). At least that's what I understood or gathered from the above comment
LosOjos Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 When you say PC as in desktop :-). At least that's what I understood or gathered from the above comment Yeah but specifically a Windows desktop in this case. I suppose I should be more specific, not everyone shares my categorisation! - PC: desktop computer (Windows or Linux, though I'd mention Linux specifically) - Laptop: any Windows or Linux laptop, again I'd mention Linux specifically - Mac (obvious) - MacBook (also obvious) 1
tmcd35 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 I think one thing to take from this thread is that £400 is still not a lot for a gaming laptop - or PC. Sure you'll get more bang for your buck out of a PC, but building your own you still have the thorny issue of a copy of Windows (£80 OEM) so still doesn't leave much for all the other components. On this budget, for gaming, I'd look at a prebuilt system from someone like Zoostorm then getting a seperate £50-£100 graphics card. I don't think it's worth building a gaming PC on a less than £500 budget, being realistic. I still think on that budget the best deals to be had for gaming are secondhand.
witch Posted September 18, 2013 Author Posted September 18, 2013 GTAV was just an example of the level of game - I know it isn't on PC yet - not quite that much of a dinosaur...yet... I have advocated building his own PC and it is true that his laptop rarely leaves his house but he says he will need to move it sometimes. What could he do for the price if he built his own and what would he look for? I am really inexperienced in this sort of thing so all advice gratefully received
witch Posted September 18, 2013 Author Posted September 18, 2013 @tmcd Yes, you are right I am sure - just a bit leery of buying secondhand with any certainty that it isn't a bad deal. Apart from ebay, where would I look? A pre-built with a separate graphics card looks good. £400 is just for the computer btw - licencing not included in that
mac_shinobi Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) @tmcd Yes, you are right I am sure - just a bit leery of buying secondhand with any certainty that it isn't a bad deal. Apart from ebay, where would I look? A pre-built with a separate graphics card looks good. £400 is just for the computer btw - licencing not included in that Was that Dell 17R too much then and what about a refurbed computer( whether desktop or laptop ) from dell or the likes ? http://www.dell.co.uk/outlet Edited September 18, 2013 by mac_shinobi
w-clarke101 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Try this But you'd be better off with this in the long run!
witch Posted September 18, 2013 Author Posted September 18, 2013 Nothing on Dell outlet for the price. I know price is a problem which is why I thought I would ask the guys who know...
witch Posted September 18, 2013 Author Posted September 18, 2013 Try this But you'd be better off with this in the long run! First one is filtered here Second one - too expensive
w-clarke101 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 First one is filtered here Second one - too expensive Well the First one is Asus K55VD-SX909H Core i3-2350M 6GB 500GB NVIDIA GeForce 610M-2GB DVD 15.6" Windows 8 maybe look at that one at home.
mac_shinobi Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 First one is filtered here Second one - too expensive Couple of screen grabs from the first link
X-13 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) GTAV was just an example of the level of game - I know it isn't on PC yet - not quite that much of a dinosaur...yet... Dinosaur Pirate Witch. The triple threat. Gaming wise, if you spec for Crysis 3 on the highest settings you can [possibly] play everything else. [Crysis 1 was a beast to run... not sure if that's changed.] Another game to possibly spec for, if you go for nVidia, would be the Tomb Raider reboot with TressFX on. [TressFX was/is broken on nVidia.] I know price is a problem which is why I thought I would ask the guys who know... That's the thing, though. Proper gaming laptops are really expensive. First one is filtered here Processor Model: I3-2350M Display Size: 15.6 in Installed Memory: 6 GB Hard Drive Capacity: 500 GB Operating System: Windows 8 Home Premium Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 610M £399.99 [not sure on delivery.] Mine has a GeForce 630M and I struggle to run some things on higher settings. It's not a beast, but it could work. Le EDIT: Ninja'd THREE TIMES?! Edited September 18, 2013 by X-13
mac_shinobi Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Desktop wise again get a quote from @VeryPC or call novatech and see if they could tweak the low end gaming rig for £400 http://m.novatech.co.uk/pc/range/novatechblacknta12.html Could get them to lower the ram to 2gb, 500gb hdd instead of 2tb and maybe a different amd cpu ? Although there base units come without an OS
siuko Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Which video editing software will your son by using? Which games will he be playing? Sadly in both cases I do not think £400 for either a desktop or laptop will be enough. Gaming wise you could probably push something ok for about £600-700, but then adding the video editing requirements will probably bump this price up for extra ram / storage. Very difficult situation (unless you know someone selling an older gaming system that is willing to sell for a reasonable price)
3s-gtech Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 The Geforce 610M is usually below the abilities of HD4000, certainly no good for anything other than casual gaming. You can build a mid-range gaming PC for £400 - not a monster but something that can tackle modern games at 1080P with medium/high detail. That wouldn't include OS license. Laptop wise, that Dell from the outlet is the best chance by a mile.
mac_shinobi Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 The Geforce 610M is usually below the abilities of HD4000, certainly no good for anything other than casual gaming. You can build a mid-range gaming PC for £400 - not a monster but something that can tackle modern games at 1080P with medium/high detail. That wouldn't include OS license. Laptop wise, that Dell from the outlet is the best chance by a mile. Which Dell is that. The 17r??
w-clarke101 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 The Geforce 610M is usually below the abilities of HD4000, certainly no good for anything other than casual gaming. You can build a mid-range gaming PC for £400 - not a monster but something that can tackle modern games at 1080P with medium/high detail. That wouldn't include OS license. Laptop wise, that Dell from the outlet is the best chance by a mile. This way i'd say the dell 17r was batter one for the two...
w-clarke101 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 In the end you get what you pay for and £400 for what you want out of a laptop is asking a bit much..... It may do what you want it to do now! but what about in a year or2?
3s-gtech Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Which Dell is that. The 17r?? Yeah. I'd agree with you w-clarke101, it's better value than a self built desktop at this price.
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