cogrady84 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) So if you don't like Win 8 it's because you're too lazy or too ignorant to get used to it? Some thoughtful, insightful responses worthy of genuine consideration... If that's all you want to take from it, then so be it. However, for some people, that is the case. There are compelling arguments both for and against, but some people seem to just jump on the negativity bandwagon, instead of formulating their own opinions. I have experienced people buying new hardware and being told to take it back because its running windows 8, even though they haven't used the OS themselves... grinds my gears. Windows 8 has alot to offer, and it should only improve upon that in time. Edited June 18, 2013 by cogrady84
Gibson335 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 If that's all you want to take from it, then so be it. However, for some people, that is the case. There are compelling arguments both for and against, but some people seem to just jump on the negativity bandwagon, instead of formulating their own opinions. Windows 8 has alot to offer, and it should only improve upon that in time. But that does sound just a little like '...instead of formulating the same opinion I have.'
cogrady84 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 But that does sound just a little like '...instead of formulating the same opinion I have.' You say that like i'm the only person in this thread who likes windows 8? -_-
zag Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I remember the same arguments that Vista was the most amazing thing since sliced bread History will not record Windows 8 kindly. I have no doubt Microsoft will fix it with version 9 though, at the very least they should learn that not everyone uses Frankenstein touch computers quite yet
Gibson335 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 You say that like i'm the only person in this thread who likes windows 8? -_- No, I say it entirely based on the manner and style of your posts.
Sheridan Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Get a grip. I've got windows 8 across my school. Kids love it, teachers love it. Not had any issues with it. How it is it an awful release?? Its Windows 7 with Metro screen across the front of it. The issue with people and Windows 8 is the fact you have to do something different to press start. Pathetic really. I've got to agree with Robjduk. And thats the point - its Windows 7 with a crappy unwanted interface stuck on it - so why bother at all! I by no means an Apple fan but at least OSX is incremented without dicking about with the interface. Edited June 18, 2013 by Sheridan
Michael Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I just noticed today that in Win 8, Microsoft have removed 'Manage Wireless Profiles' which was extremely useful in Win 7. Why on earth have they removed this?
Guest Guest Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 And thats the point - its Windows 7 with a crappy unwanted interface stuck on it - so why bother at all! And windows 7 is Vista with slight interface changes, and we all know how popular Vista was and how much everyone loves 7.* My bets are that Windows 9 will be no different interface wise, just a bit of tweaking, but as with Vista>7, by that point everyone "will have gotten used to it" and it will be hailed as the new "XP/7". *Of course neither yours or my statement are accurate as there is far more to it than just interface changes.
Tall_Paul Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I am by no means a luddite, and have been using W8 at home since launch. However (you just knew there had to be one didn't you) I think TIFKAM is a crap interface. Some of the many small irritants I could list include taking almost four clicks to shut down, and if I type 'firewall' into the search it brings nothing back meaning I have to go through Control Panel. They are only small irritants, but W8 contains a lot of them IMHO. I wouldn't dream of foisting it on my users in it's current state.
VeryPC_Tom_M Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I type 'firewall' into the search it brings nothing back meaning I have to go through Control Panel. If you look on the right side of the search screen and select "settings", it'll bring back the Windows Firewall (and anything else you might wish to search for in Control Panel)!
Tall_Paul Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 If you look on the right side of the search screen and select "settings", it'll bring back the Windows Firewall (and anything else you might wish to search for in Control Panel)! And yet if I type 'firewall' into W7 up it pops! Somewhat counter-intuitive in my eyes.
Tall_Paul Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Also, there is known problem with the Metro apps and authenticated proxy servers.
Sheridan Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Vista and W7 were incremental updates of Xp/2000 - same principles (start menu etc), different look. W8 is W7 with bad things done to it. I'm not against change - but either MS should have had the confidence to provide whole new UI (metro or whatever) or enchance the existing one (like osx) rather than bodge the two together.
robjduk Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 And yet if I type 'firewall' into W7 up it pops! Somewhat counter-intuitive in my eyes. and if you type it into the start screen it pops up just fine. Pin it there if you fancy and then choose a calming colour for the icon.
LosOjos Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 and if you type it into the start screen it pops up just fine. Pin it there if you fancy and then choose a calming colour for the icon. I have to say it is irritating that the search function separates things in to categories - yeah, it's only one more click to see if what I'm searching for is in the "settings" tab, but incrementally everything takes far longer than it should in W8. There's also the problem that some things inevitably have the same name - typing 'update' for instance can bring all manor of carp up and unless you recognise the icon for the software you want to update, you're stuffed. Simply adding the software/app name to results would solve that problem. I understand this is one of the things MS have "fixed" in 8.1; all search results are shown in one place.
flyinghaggis Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Oddly, despite having used it since launch at home, rather than getting used to the changes I'm actually starting to find Windows 8 increasing frustrating to use the more time I spend working with it! I can see where Microsoft is going with trying to combine the metro touch UI and the Windows7 desktop interface but as it stands just now the whole thing feels like a half finished mess that isn't particularly suited to either tablets or laptops/desktops. There's simply no logic to the way the UI and OS is structured anymore. Edited June 18, 2013 by flyinghaggis
Sheridan Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I can see where they were going with Metro - on a tablet it works pretty well. But not on a desktop. The world is full of desktops and they will be around for some time yet. Even with a touchscreen desktop the metro UI will give you RSI stretching across to use it! Why MS didn't do two versions of W8 (tablet and desktop/laptop) I'll never know. Apple succeeded by selling iOS and OSX which work well on the devices they are designed for.
zag Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Why MS didn't do two versions of W8 (tablet and desktop/laptop) I'll never know. They did it because they knew they had a failing mobile phone operating system as well and the only way they could actually get people to write apps for it was to move their entire ecosystem over at the same time. To be fair, it kind of worked. But desktop users are the ones suffering.
CAM Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 But mobile apps don't work with desktop and vice versa. I can't get Rowi on my desktop for example.
nathan Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 An extra step , Windows 7, Vista, XP, 2000, NT 4 would all take me to the desktop without having to press a key! I've taken the learning plunge and gone Mac instead, Microsoft have lost the plot. Windows 8, Windows Mobile 8, Xbox One, all wrong wrong wrong. This is what makes me laugh, people are willing to learn to use a mac but complain because they have to learn to use Windows 8. Is it really because Microsoft isn't a cool company?
nathan Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 They did it because they knew they had a failing mobile phone operating system as well and the only way they could actually get people to write apps for it was to move their entire ecosystem over at the same time. To be fair, it kind of worked. But desktop users are the ones suffering. it depends what you call a failing mobile os. It may be small numbers still but it's growing quicker than anything else out there. So it's not all doom and gloom. I presume Microsoft are finally getting there act together with the three screens thing.
nathan Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I can see where they were going with Metro - on a tablet it works pretty well. But not on a desktop. The world is full of desktops and they will be around for some time yet. Even with a touchscreen desktop the metro UI will give you RSI stretching across to use it! Why MS didn't do two versions of W8 (tablet and desktop/laptop) I'll never know. Apple succeeded by selling iOS and OSX which work well on the devices they are designed for. Have you ever used a touch screen laptop/desktop? I used a desktop one for a couple of weeks and actually found it pretty good. You don't use the touch screen exclusively, but in combination with the keyboard/mouse. So the RSI stuff isn't an issue. In my testing i thought it worked pretty well. Back to my normal desktop now and i keep touching the screen! lol With every release of windows we seem to have a year of people hating it until the hardware catches up with it, in this case with different form factors.
cogrady84 Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) This is what makes me laugh, people are willing to learn to use a mac but complain because they have to learn to use Windows 8. +1 exactly Edited June 19, 2013 by cogrady84
robjduk Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Dont know about anyone else but I wouldnt employ an IT tech who bought a Mac because the new Windows was too hard to figure out.
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