Michael Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Do you have it with Server 2012? I tried a Win 8 machine on a 2008 R2 domain and it didn't really work properly, you know, group policies and what not. I want to get it working because I have schools with Volume License, so I can use it. I have it on my laptop at home. 2 problems, 1 - I can't attach to my bluetooth speaker anymore, 2 - I can't play Command and Conquer Tiberian Sun any more. But whatevs... we must move forward! In Windows 7 there was an XP Mode (optional download) which was useful. This is different from Compatibility Mode. I wonder if there's a Windows 7 Mode in Windows 8? May be worth exploring?
sted Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 In Windows 7 there was an XP Mode (optional download) which was useful. This is different from Compatibility Mode. I wonder if there's a Windows 7 Mode in Windows 8? May be worth exploring? doubt the diffences woould be enough as isnt it basically the same kernel anyway?
Joanne Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 In Windows 7 there was an XP Mode (optional download) which was useful. This is different from Compatibility Mode. I wonder if there's a Windows 7 Mode in Windows 8? May be worth exploring? Believe me when I say I have tried EVERYTHING!! :-P
Arthur Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I wonder if there's a Windows 7 Mode in Windows 8? Windows 8 Pro & Enterprise both have Hyper-V which can be used like XP Mode in Windows 7. 1
sted Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Windows 8 Pro & Enterprise both have Hyper-V which can be used like XP Mode in Windows 7. only on x64 i believe
gshaw Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) I've got a mix, Win7 on my work desktop and home gaming PC but Win8 on both my ThinkPads (T430s and x100e). Win8 suits the mobile devices well and I don't mind Metro for casual \ light work, however for heavier daily work with multiple (I mean 20+) windows I'm more productive on Win7 as too many of the power user UI elements are either missing or take an extra keystroke or two to access which I find slows me down when multiplied together. All comes down to the appropriate use argument that comes up time and again with technology, trying to force one size fits all inevitably ends up fitting none of them (imo) Edited June 17, 2013 by gshaw
Arthur Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 only on x64 I believe Correct. Hyper-V wouldn't make any sense on a 32-bit OS. 1
Joanne Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Windows 8 Pro & Enterprise both have Hyper-V which can be used like XP Mode in Windows 7. Despite having an i5 and 4GB RAM, my laptop can't hack hyper V with another machine running... I tried it on Windows 7 when I had issues with the same game. I overcame that by fettling.
FN-GM Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Despite having an i5 and 4GB RAM, my laptop can't hack hyper V with another machine running... I tried it on Windows 7 when I had issues with the same game. I overcame that by fettling. Probably the hard disk causing it.
sted Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 i suspect its the 4gb of ram tbh also hyper v on win8 dosent seem to support audio so not much use for gaming
cogrady84 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Windows 7 or bust, especially when gaming is involved. I really don't understand this mentality... i've been using Windows 8 on my home and office PC since release day, had 0 problems with drivers/games. Your on edugeek.net, keyword being geek... fix your problems? Theres nothing inherently wrong with the operating system apart from laziness and ignorance on the other side of the keyboard... 1
LosOjos Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Windows 8 vs. Windows 7 is the new Mac vs. Windows...
CAM Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) @cogrady: Whoa! Chill a bit! It's just an Operating System at the end of the day and everyone has their prefs. I only picked up Win 8 because it was significantly cheaper then Win 7 on release. It's a great OS but has severe problems with the near useless bolt-on called Metro which has given the OS a bad reputation and puts people off. Ignore Metro or not, it is still a key part of the OS that should be considered when deciding what to use. And I say this as a WP8 adopter who finds the mobile version of Metro to be a delight to use, it just has no place on the desktop as the app design leads to frustration instead of ease of use. Better desktop integration with Metro would make Win 8 a powerful and delightful OS to use IMO. Edited June 17, 2013 by CAM
casey Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I really don't understand this mentality... i've been using Windows 8 on my home and office PC since release day, had 0 problems with drivers/games. Your on edugeek.net, keyword being geek... fix your problems? Theres nothing inherently wrong with the operating system apart from laziness and ignorance on the other side of the keyboard... Ouch! That seems pretty agressive. People on here try to help each other not attack them. I was lucky enough to find an answer to my problem, which I shared in this thread, however I still find some aspects of Windows 8 problematic or just frustrating. I've been using 8 since October of last year at work and at home and I only realised last week that the DVD Maker was missing, MS seems to have added some (many?) unwanted functions to Windows 8 and taken away some which were very useful, albeit only occasionally.
Quackers Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I could create a very long list with whats wrong with Windows 8....
cogrady84 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Windows 7 had way more problems, and was a far larger departure in terms of UI from Windows XP. Yet it is the holy grail of operating systems now, people need to be less scared of change. Its not like your forced to use Metro, a quick tap of the windows key and your on the desktop, as you were... Sizeable performance improvements over Windows 7 in various applications, practically instant bootup, a streamlined GUI, security improvements, cloud integration, superior multi-monitor support (fantastic for gaming/office), far better diagnostic support tools (new taskmanager and performance indicators, file transfer ui), pooled storage, picture passwords... the list goes on... things need to move forward... embrace it! Edited June 17, 2013 by cogrady84
LosOjos Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Windows 7 had way more problems, and was a far larger departure in terms of UI from Windows XP. Which version of XP/7 did you use?!
Quackers Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Its not like your forced to use Metro, a quick tap of the windows key and your on the desktop, as you were... An extra step , Windows 7, Vista, XP, 2000, NT 4 would all take me to the desktop without having to press a key! I've taken the learning plunge and gone Mac instead, Microsoft have lost the plot. Windows 8, Windows Mobile 8, Xbox One, all wrong wrong wrong.
cogrady84 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) An extra step , Windows 7, Vista, XP, 2000, NT 4 would all take me to the desktop without having to press a key! I've taken the learning plunge and gone Mac instead, Microsoft have lost the plot. Windows 8, Windows Mobile 8, Xbox One, all wrong wrong wrong. I find it quite nice to get a quick "at a glance" look at all my live tiles, showing me the latest formula 1 news, stock portfolio updates, recent search trends, current weather, netflix updates, news etc... I guess it's not for everyone, but I find it quite handy I fail to see how your going to solve this problem of having to press an additional key during bootup, by migrating to a Unix based operating system, be prepared for much larger headaches! Edited June 17, 2013 by cogrady84
bodminman Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I find it quite nice to get a quick "at a glance" look at all my live tiles, showing me the latest formula 1 news, stock portfolio updates, recent search trends, current weather, netflix updates, news etc... I guess it's not for everyone, but I find it quite handy I fail to see how your going to solve this problem of having to press an additional key during bootup, by migrating to a Unix based operating system, be prepared for much larger headaches! I think he has had enough of Microsoft desktop OS's as a whole. I suppose mac's tend to 'feel' pretty much the same no matter what they do!
CAM Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Do bear in mind Win 8.1 will feature boot to desktop so a bit longer and that won't be an issue. Live tiles are fantastic and I want more of them! I can't get enough of them on my phone, literally since app makers aren't using Live Tiles to the best of their ability yet. Unfortunately on the desktop, the software behind the live tile is often designed poorly and it is this Metro design philosophy where everything has to be a full-screen, touch-based nightmare with a mouse and keyboard that the system gets let down. Metro apps are not designed with desktop users in mind, where we want more information on the screen which Live Tiles accomplish just for the actual app itself to reduce the amount of information on screen with full-screen pictures and tedious "swiping." And if it can make a Twitter notification go to the Twitter website instead of a poorly made Metro app, that'd be an example of desktop integration I'd love to see!
sted Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I don't get the hate for metro I load at home maybe half a dozen apps ie metro/ff depending on laptop/tablet/site mail a couple of games and a few odd others how does having them on 1 screen a la metro hurt me or most people and if I need to dig into deployment toolkit its still there its no worse than personalized menus on win7 that hides stuff you don't use
featured_spectre Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 Let me get this straight, people moaning that I tried nothing. I tried OpenGL W7, Vista, XP drivers for my machine, nothing worked I tried Intel W7, Vista, XP drivers for my machine, nothing worked I tried TitaniumOpenGL W7, Vista and XP drivers for my machine, nothing worked. This laptop is 4 years old, support for the drivers went, around 2 years ago. Every driver I attempted, failed. It was not for lack of trying, it was for lack of drivers for the machine. I spent a good 10 hours searching and trying all sorts. As for W8, I have it on my desktop, runs smooth as silk!
CAM Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I don't get the hate for metro I load at home maybe half a dozen apps ie metro/ff depending on laptop/tablet/site mail a couple of games and a few odd others how does having them on 1 screen a la metro hurt me or most people and if I need to dig into deployment toolkit its still there its no worse than personalized menus on win7 that hides stuff you don't use If you use it on a touch screen device such as a tablet the design makes sense. It doesn't make sense once you venture back into keyboard land. Example, the Twitter app snapped to the side bar. If you want to refresh you either grab the scrollbar and scroll up to refresh (scroll wheel won't work) or right click, go all the way down to the bottom of the screen and click refresh in the bar that appears. If it was designed with desktop in mind, you would have a refresh button on screen and right click would create a menu under the mouse instead of clicking, wondering where the menu is and noticing it is down the bottom. Likewise, if I bring up a news app then having lots of stories in front of me, categorised and showing me the information I want. Instead I am shown a full screen picture with one news item. In both cases it is far more productive and powerful to open a web browser and visit the Twitter or BBC News website for a proper desktop experience, rendering the relevant Metro app redundant. The only use the Twitter app serves on my PC is the notification to prompt me to visit the Twitter site when I get a message. This is experience from loading many Metro apps myself and in nearly all cases, a website has been a better option.
Gibson335 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 So if you don't like Win 8 it's because you're too lazy or too ignorant to get used to it? Some thoughtful, insightful responses worthy of genuine consideration... 1
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