Gongalong Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 Hi folks, Can anyone recommend a supplier that has a variety of projector ceiling mounts and brackets? I'm struggling to find someone via Google. Do ceiling mounts only bolt back, or are there any types with clamps? We're trying to connect a pole to a fairly narrow steel beam. TIA
Millgate Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 Hi there, If you send me the details, I'll have a word with our AV guys for you
plexer Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 I-Beam (Girder) Mount - Products - B-Tech International Ben 1
clodhopper Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 We've used B Tech mounts & Vision(Techmount | Vision | AV Installation ProductsVision | AV Installation Products) I have to say I like the vision ones most :-) 1
Chris_ Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 We usually use CPC. They have a good range of projector mounts and brackets. The Sahara 1m kit normally works well in our classrooms. 1
plexer Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 Neither vision nor Sahara from what I can see offer and I beam clamp mount though. Ben 1
john Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 For more unusual installations I would be looking at making my own, I don't know how much that B-tech one is but for probably £20 worth of materials you could make your own. Two bits of steel and 4 lengths of threaded bar and some nuts and washers combined with a normal projector mount kit bolted to the bottom steel job done. I have made my own up like that for installs before around strange columns and bars and it has worked very well. 1
Dragon Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Speak to Unicol who manufacture stands and projector mounts. You can order via Misco. But Unicol are well made products and alot better made than the cheap ones from the likes of CPC (which I also buy) depends on your budget. 1
Gongalong Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 It gets even more complex, as the beam we want to suspend off is directly in line with the ceiling grid, so we'll have to come off at angle. Our usual AV installer suggested a piece of wood behind a ceiling tile, and then bolt into that, but it didn't sound very safe to me You could push the ceiling tile out, and the whole lot would drop on top of you, or onto the floor (cables permitting).
john Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 It gets even more complex, as the beam we want to suspend off is directly in line with the ceiling grid, so we'll have to come off at angle. Our usual AV installer suggested a piece of wood behind a ceiling tile, and then bolt into that, but it didn't sound very safe to me You could push the ceiling tile out, and the whole lot would drop on top of you, or onto the floor (cables permitting). Your suspended ceiling grid would also have to be designed to hold the weight which I suspect it wasn't designed to do. Sounds like you need to do a custom job, have you got 2 beams above the ceiling where you could run uni-strut between kind of like this: I I --------- P The I's are beams, ---- = Uni-strut and P = Projector. 1
plexer Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I'd be looking for a new AV installer personally. Ben 2
Gongalong Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 John: oddly this beam is totally separate from the grid. Hard to know what the history here as it isn't currently used to suspend anything from (it's been used as a lifting beam, of sorts, in the past).
chazzy2501 Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 You can get ceiling tile projector mounts but they fix to the real ceiling and hang in the tile space. You can get automatic ones that lower themselves as well £$£ if you haven't purchased the projector yet hang it from the beam and get a projector with optical shift. (V handy)
john Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 John: oddly this beam is totally separate from the grid. Hard to know what the history here as it isn't currently used to suspend anything from (it's been used as a lifting beam, of sorts, in the past). Interesting the original ceilign will have some beam above the plaster work somewhere for you to get a fix into so the unistrut solution could work, batten down with timber from the orignial and then use the plates (or decent plywood) around the I beam and fix to that. Where there is a will there is a way You can also use Beam Clamps around the edge of the existing beam if you don't need to move the projector too far from it, they clamp onto the edge of the beam and use the uni-strut fed through it to make a tight fix, they work well I have a few items up that way 1
Gongalong Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 chazzy2501: We can't hang it directly from the beam because the grid structure is directly below annoyingly. I'm not sure if there's a right angle mount? We've not had any luck finding one so far, but the beam is a bit small so won't take a large connector.
plexer Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Get some unistrut and some beam clamps to give you a fixing to the side of the beam location and then mount projector mount to the unistrut. http://unistrut.co.uk/index.php?M1=Support%20Systems&M2=Beam%20Clamps Ben 1
Gongalong Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 john: it looks like a reinforced concrete ceiling with the metal formwork still in place below. Difficult to drill into I suspect, and may even require a diamond drill if it's very tough cement. plexer: D&T room. Apparently they used this beam and another further down the room to suspend a plane wing while they were working on it (!). The teacher discovered them, hung off them, and decided they were strong enough
Gongalong Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 Unistrut sounds like the thing. I'll get a picture if it still proves to be complex! Thanks all for the suggestions.
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