Some fails this week!

[synaesthesia]

It's been a funny one.

 

For instance, the Food Standards Agency have given a nut company a rollocking for not telling potential customers their nuts might in fact, contain nuts. (source: BBC News - Store pulls monkey nuts from shelves over 'peanut warning' )

 

I'm an easy going guy but I really think that anyone with a severe nut allergy buying a bag of nuts deserves to have happen whatever happens. For ages I thought such rulings were fallacy, but it is in fact true, the FSA are morons and there as a direct result must be morons they are trying to protect.

 

And another one from Ebuyer, who are currently running a competition in conjunction with Kingston.

 

"Kingston are celebrating 10 years of HyperX technology by giving you the chance to win a Kingston 120GB HyperX 3K SSD…"

 

All you have to do is count the amount of Kingston products on their home page (including the "More Featured Items pages"). You'd think there would be lots to celebrate this.

 

Absolutely zero!

[mac_shinobi]

It's been a funny one.

 

For instance, the Food Standards Agency have given a nut company a rollocking for not telling potential customers their nuts might in fact, contain nuts. (source: BBC News - Store pulls monkey nuts from shelves over 'peanut warning' )

 

 

Something like this and other warnings on food products

 

[sted]

or warning on coffee cups saying its hot. people who cant work these things out deserve removing from the gene pool

 

or as Douglas Adams once said

 

Hold stick near centre of its length. Moisten pointed end in mouth. Insert in tooth space, blunt end next to gum. Use gentle in-out motion.

'It seemed to me,' said Wonko the Sane, 'that any civilization that had so far lost its head as to need to include a set of detailed instructions for use in a packet of toothpicks, was no longer a civilization in which I could live and stay sane.'

[laserblazer]

Somebody sent in a quote from a local paper to the News Quiz about a father who had to be rescued by the emergency services because he was stuck on the top of a climbing frame. They got him down by persuading him to use the slide!

[jinnantonnixx]

Hmmm. While they're re-doing the labelling for the monkey nuts, they might want to add 'Does not contain monkeys' just for completeness. You never know... Edited April 27, 2013 by jinnantonnixx

[SpuffMonkey]

I was looking for an Indian Takeaway last night and saw this offering from the local one!

 

[MatthewL]

Wish common sense would be used. Drives me mad seeing news like that where it has been brought up, would it of happened 10 year ago nope, common sense needs to be brought back into the world.

[witch]

To be honest, there is an issue with monkey nuts. Some people don't know that they are peanuts. Yes, really. They have no idea that peanuts come in shells like that (and grow underground, too - oh, and they aren't nuts either)

[featured_spectre]

technically peas are peanuts... Edited April 28, 2013 by witch

[sted]

To be honest, there is an issue with monkey nuts. Some people don't know that they are peanuts. Yes, really. They have no idea that peanuts come in shells like that (and grow underground, too - oh, and they aren't nuts either)

 

peanuts arnt nuts either iirc they are legumes

[synaesthesia]

lol @SpuffMonkey - I've always wondered how native Australians taste! Not sure I could manage a whole one though, nor would I expect to find one in an Indian restaurant!

 

and @sted is indeed correct (QI ftw) but still. There is a lot to be said for common sense and basic levels of intelligence. Just like there are people that don't know monkey nuts are peanuts in their shell, there are people blissfully unaware that normal milk comes from cows. As said though, I'm still all for natural selection in these cases.

[localzuk]

From what I can tell, the lack of common sense is a cyclical problem. Some stupid people do something stupid, so those wanting to protect said stupid people put up signs and mollycoddle them. So in the future, more people stop thinking for themselves and expect everything to be hand fed to them, meaning that it is everyone else's fault when they burn their mouths whilst drinking coffee...

 

How do you break the cycle?

[synaesthesia]

Natural Selection will take care of it. People best learn from their mistakes, and those that don't are doomed to fail. That's how we progressed so "quickly" from being cavemen to where we are now.

 

The only thing actually stopping that is mitigation and crap laws.

[sted]

From what I can tell, the lack of common sense is a cyclical problem. Some stupid people do something stupid, so those wanting to protect said stupid people put up signs and mollycoddle them. So in the future, more people stop thinking for themselves and expect everything to be hand fed to them, meaning that it is everyone else's fault when they burn their mouths whilst drinking coffee...

 

How do you break the cycle?

let people fail and learn from it rather than saying its someone elses fault. yes the path was a bit uneven but of you pay attention you wont injure yourself no need to sue the council because youre a dumbass

[localzuk]

I think there's an underlying issue there - the compensation culture that exists now. There's always someone to blame, so everyone just sues everyone. Get rid of that ability (except for major things like negligence and the like) and the issue may go away...

[SpuffMonkey]

From what I can tell, the lack of common sense is a cyclical problem. Some stupid people do something stupid, so those wanting to protect said stupid people put up signs and mollycoddle them. So in the future, more people stop thinking for themselves and expect everything to be hand fed to them, meaning that it is everyone else's fault when they burn their mouths whilst drinking coffee...

 

How do you break the cycle?

 

I suppose the other side of your argument is what just happened to that building in Pakistan - I quite like having some protection from rogues and scallys - the problem is where to draw the line.

[ozydave]

If you don't know monkey nuts contain nuts, milk contains milk let them enter and win the Darwin awards http://darwinawards.com/

 

A mate came up with the idea of a test you have to pass before you are allowed to leave school no matter how many exam passes you get. Just a simple common sense test (wonder how many teachers would pass)

You should also have a common sense shed outside of a court that all cases have to pass through before wasting court time and money.

[CAM]

Hmmm. While they're re-doing the labelling for the monkey nuts, they might want to add 'Does not contain monkeys' just for completeness. You never know...

 

Suitable for vegetarians?

[localzuk]

I suppose the other side of your argument is what just happened to that building in Pakistan - I quite like having some protection from rogues and scallys - the problem is where to draw the line.

 

That's not really down to common sense though. Building safety isn't really simple to deal with and requires complex design constraints etc... Whereas knowing that coffee from a shop will be given to you in a hot state is.

[broc]

During a science lesson at my wifes school the kids were horrified to find out that steak & kidney pie contained 'real' kidneys.....

 

Years ago my young nieces were amazed when their grandfather showed them peas growing in a pod.....

 

Too many people don't know where their food comes from.

[Roberto]

That's not really down to common sense though. Building safety isn't really simple to deal with and requires complex design constraints etc... Whereas knowing that coffee from a shop will be given to you in a hot state is.

 

Oh, the old "coffee is hot" chestnut. Might be worth reading this. There's hot, which we all expect our hot drinks to be, and there's "causes 3rd degree burns within just a couple of seconds".

 

During a science lesson at my wifes school the kids were horrified to find out that steak & kidney pie contained 'real' kidneys.....

 

Years ago my young nieces were amazed when their grandfather showed them peas growing in a pod.....

 

Too many people don't know where their food comes from.

 

I've always thought that people should have more of an appreciation of how the food arrives at the supermarket. I had high hopes, once, that all these food "scandals" might encourage people to do that but now I realise that I could shout myself hoarse about this but some people don't want to know.

Edited April 29, 2013 by Roberto

[localzuk]

Oh, the old "coffee is hot" chestnut. Might be worth reading this. There's hot, which we all expect our hot drinks to be, and there's "causes 3rd degree burns within just a couple of seconds".

 

In order to produce coffee that tastes its best, you need to use hot water. Not 'warm' but hot. 93-96 degrees in fact. If you go to 100 degrees, you release more bitterness so you don't want it actually boiling.

 

So, the fact still stands - people are complaining that they get burnt when their coffee is hot.

 

I've always thought that people should have more of an appreciation of how the food arrives at the supermarket. I had high hopes, once, that all these food "scandals" might encourage people to do that but now I realise that I could shout myself hoarse about this but some people don't want to know.

 

Ignorance is bliss. I used to do animal rights info stalls - just giving out leaflets showing people where their foods come from, and providing samples of vegan food for them to try. Nothing militant there. People got so very angry about being shown where their food comes from it was unbelievable.

 

I remember one protest outside a McDonald's that I helped at, people threw things at us and one guy in a mobility scooter tried to run one of us over... All because we were highlighting where their Chicken McNuggets came from.

Edited April 29, 2013 by localzuk

[sparkeh]

Ignorance is bliss. I used to do animal rights info stalls - just giving out leaflets showing people where their foods come from, and providing samples of vegan food for them to try. Nothing militant there. People got so very angry about being shown where their food comes from it was unbelievable.

 

I remember one protest outside a McDonald's that I helped at, people threw things at us and one guy in a mobility scooter tried to run one of us over... All because we were highlighting where their Chicken McNuggets came from.

I've never really understood this kind of reaction. When I decided to be vegetarian I was grilled by family and friends but they didn't really want to hear the reasons why.

Worse still was when my wife told people she was becoming a vegan (no lectures or anything, just to inform people so they didn't offer her things like milk in her tea) it was met with outright hostility. Its nuts.

[witch]

I've never really understood this kind of reaction. When I decided to be vegetarian I was grilled by family and friends but they didn't really want to hear the reasons why.

Worse still was when my wife told people she was becoming a vegan (no lectures or anything, just to inform people so they didn't offer her things like milk in her tea) it was met with outright hostility. Its nuts.

 

Well, I suppose it is because it is going against the mainstream, and given the way we chew and digest food (canine teeth and no multiple stomachs or cellulose digestion), you could say that humans are made to be carnivores. So people find it odd. They don't like anything different.

I did see something on fml - someone got upset with a girl who kept chickens and killed them for the pot - she was told that she should get her meat from the supermarket instead!

[jinnantonnixx]

Well, I suppose it is because it is going against the mainstream, and given the way we chew and digest food (canine teeth and no multiple stomachs or cellulose digestion), you could say that humans are made to be carnivores. So people find it odd. They don't like anything different.

I did see something on fml - someone got upset with a girl who kept chickens and killed them for the pot - she was told that she should get her meat from the supermarket instead!

 

It's only through technology (cooking) that humans can safely digest meat. Our digestive tracts are much longer than that of a true carnivore. The meat would putrefy and make us ill. Neither are we true vegetarians; we're not ruminants and have to cook vegetables to break down the cellulose.

Edited April 29, 2013 by jinnantonnixx