tosca925 Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Do BECTA or any other body have any offical/unoffical gudelines to the numper of technicans/suport staff to per PC workstaion numbers. I know there is industry figure brandished about but have never heard anytihng on Education. Have any of you lot heard anything mentioned. Would be interested to find out or if any of the Eduggek staff could bring this up in future meetings.
Geoff Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 http://www.becta.org.uk/techcomp/docs/how_many_technicians.pdf
Face-Man Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 URL doesn't seem to work ?... No I think becta site is down could it be they don't have enough technicians.
Geoff Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Google Cache to the rescue. http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:i-yrG-XP__4J:www.becta.org.uk/techcomp/docs/how_many_technicians.pdf+&hl=en&client=firefox
Dos_Box Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Infrastructure - Advice & Support How many ICT Technicians do you need? It is extremely difficult to identify the optimal number of ICT Technicians for an institution. The way technical support is conducted and the type and age of an ICT infrastructure may be different in every institution. Although this means there is no solution to suit all institutions, there are a number of common factors which should be considered when estimating Technician workload. - The reliability of the network and components If the institution has a new network that is set up correctly it is likely to create fewer incidents and problems, thereby reducing the workload. Alternatively, if the institution has an older network which is poorly set up, the workload is likely to be greater and will require more ICT technicians. - The efficiency of technical support If technical support follows a structured, proactive approach to managing and supporting ICT eg, as set out in the Framework for ICT Technical Support (FITS), fewer incidents and problems are likely to occur which will reduce the workload. Alternatively, if technical support is reactive the workload is likely to be greater requiring more technicians. - The demands of ICT users If users have low ICT confidence they will report more incidents and requests with technical support. As a consequence the workload will be greater and may require more technicians. Alternatively, if users are confident as a result of appropriate ICT training reported incidents and subsequent workloads will be reduced. - How many incidents are fixed at first point of contact If technical support have a Service Desk in place that fixes a high percentage of incidents at first point of contact the required number of technicians will be reduced. Alternatively, if few incidents are fixed at first point of contact the technical support team will need more technicians to deal with the workload. So what does this mean? The optimal number of ICT technicians will depend upon the type and nature of an institution’s ICT infrastructure and management. As a rough guide, an institution with: •a reliable network •efficient technical support •ICT confident and trained users •a staffed Service Desk may require as few as one technician for every 150 computers. Alternatively, an institution with: •an older network •or inefficient technical support •or users lacking confidence and training •or no Service Desk/single point of contact may require more than 1 technician for every 50 computers. This ratio is only indicative, so please read on for suggested next steps. Next steps. Institutions must consider how their individual circumstances affect a Technician’s workload. Implementing a structured approach for ICT management and support (e.g. FITS) can reduce this workload, but aged networks, components and untrained users will continue to contribute to a Technician’s work. Ultimately, the question “How many Technicians do I need?†is less important than recognising where the Technician workload is coming from and considering how to deal with the source and reduce workloads in the future. It least it admits that you need at least 2 support staff (even if one is desk bound answering calls, or utilises the school receptionist as was suggested by Becta last year.
Guest richard Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 or utilises the school receptionist as was suggested by Becta last year. There's no way that our office staff would that.
ChrisH Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Which crazy people put 1 to 400? http://www.cantshootstraight.com/images/smilies/wow.gif
Netman Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Agreed Mark... personally, 1:80 or so - but 1:100 is too much!
fooby Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 In a thin client school I visited, they had 2 guys to about 600 thin clients. In our place, the technicians will do all things like fittin projectors and screens to building PC's. So we have 5 guys to 500 PC's, we managed to get 5 as we dont need to out source jobs to other places. fooby
Guest richard Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 We run at 1 : 150 or there about at present.
Geoff Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Diskless thin clients are easy to troubleshoot though: 1. Reboot it. 2. Swap the network cable with the machine nearest. 3. Replace it with a spare.
fooby Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Yeah, we hope so we are adding about 200 thin to our 500 fat network. Shouldnt be too hard as thins, as you say, are pretty easy to sort out
webman Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 I used to be a technician in the school, about 250 PCs/800 students+staff. But apparently, I wasn't needed in IT Support
Ric_ Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 It's the bloody printers and idiots that can't use computers that take a toll on your time. Along with peorple castrating mice, mangling the pins in PS2 plugs, stealing ram(!)...
GrumbleDook Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 We are moving to thin clients as we know that we cannot sustain the number of desktops we need and still keep up with our Laptops for Students scheme. It is cheaper to go to thin client than go for fat client and get more staff. This does mean that the staff lose out on having a technician to help them get the most out of the kit.
tosca925 Posted January 19, 2006 Author Posted January 19, 2006 So if i told you that i am runiing a network with 1-370 you would be a bit suprised?
MkII Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 1:300 here. Phasing out thin client as everyone hates it, but then it is an economical solution if you do it with Linux apparently, or slum it with terminal services [sorry - in a bit of a mood right now]. You must have a hybrid system if you want to deliver multimedia courses. For lightweight staff/ research use it'd be perfect [not that your users would thank you for it], and I think the only sustainable way for schols to provide greater IT saturation.
pinemarten Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 Ric - re: mouse balls ; Glue the retaining plate in - you'll never lose another ball (need a screwdriver to clean them though!)
ChrisH Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 I super glue them in and our kids use keys to break the retaining plate to get them out
e_g_r Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 Optical is the only way (but they do go walkies some of the time) Oh 1 per 125 here and spend 75% of our time showing staff how to press the FN key and F# to get output to their interactive whiteboard so that they can show DVD'd (very interactive!!!!!)
Ric_ Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 @pinemartin: I do that if I have time but some times it's just not worth the effort - they'll find a way around! Since there's only me to the 200 desktops and 100 laptops (admittedly nearly everything is thin client), my resources are stretched a little thinly.
fooby Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 The trick is to buy the cheapest, nastiest optical mice. That way, its both cost effective to lose them, and really not worth stealing
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