LanSchoolUK_Adam

Just an FYI that new Edge has left Beta and saw its official release yesterday. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2020/01/15/the-new-microsoft-edge-now-available-for-download/ This can either be downloaded and distributed manually or received via Windows Update (replacing old Edge). We will therefore be adding Edge to our supported browser list by virtue of the existing Chrome/Chromium 'Web Helper' extension as above.

Hi @MrBrow - thanks for raising this and sorry to hear about the issues you've been having since updating to v8.0.2.54. This isn't one I've come across (we've just updated all our laptops, VM's, servers and other devices to v8.0.2.82 in preparation for BETT) but if you give me 24 hours I'll try and replicate it per your detailed instructions and see what results we get. Since you mentioned it is only impacting one room and not another, can you let me know the hardware spec, OS version etc. of the affected machines? Could I ask you to PM me your school/college details so we can set up a bug report ticket anyway, in case it needs to go to dev? Cheers.

If you're looking to stay 100% cloud then it is possible to run LanSchool in a serverless / peer-to-peer mode, provided the Teacher and Student machines are both on the same subnet (i.e. both on the same WiFi network) so they can discover each other via packet broadcast. In terms of building out Classroom Management lists from your existing iSAMS lists (i.e. student Azure usernames, teacher names, class ID, room etc), then its very easy to do. We can also schedule an output-import sync between iSAMS and LanSchool so that timetable changes are reflected in our system too (i.e. cover teachers). I've PM'd you my details if you would like to have a chat - cheers!

Hi William, Both Chrome and Edge extensions are user-driven (rather than machine / HKLM) - kind of like how Chromebooks are designed to be user-focused platforms that pull down data based on the user logging in, rather than what is installed on the device itself. For that reason, you probably can't do do this via image, however it is entirely possible to do it via a user GPO. You should include Edge (downloadable from the link in my first post) in your image. The method for dsitributing Edge extensions is the same as the method for Chrome extensions (as they're both Chromium-based): 1) Install Edge Beta and load it 2) Go to Extensions and enable access to Third-Party stores 3) Now navigate to the LanSchool Web Helper extension on the Chromebook store 4) Add it/enable it (will reference the browser as Chrome, even though it's Edge) Now 5) Navigate to: C:\Users\William\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge Beta\User Data\Default\Extensions Find our extension, folder name: honjcnefekfnompampcpmcdadibmjhlk Copy that folder and all its contents and create a user-login based GPO that pushes it down into the above location. Its worth bearing in mind that LanSchool v8.0.1 and above actually includes the LanSchool Web Helper Chrome Extension during the client install for Windows and Mac. This will create the extension folder with the same ID in: C:\Users\William\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Extensions No doubt when Edge finally goes full-release we'll include its extension in the client install process as we do for Chrome currently. Hope that helps - cheers!

Hi Terry, Can you advise if you're using P2P (peer-to-peer) or LCS (Direct IP comms between Server-Client)? If the former, it could be that broadcast traffic isn't permitted on your WiFi. If you use a tool like WireShark to track requests leaving one machine and arriving at another, the outbound ports we use are TCP/UDP 796 and 11796, and UDP 1053. We tend to recommend using the server-client model for wireless devices if possible, as wired and wireless devices on the same network tend to be different subnets which isn't supported in the P2P model (flat network only). If the latter, can you confirm if the student devices appear on the LCS client list when connected over WiFi?

Hi Renfield, We have the capabilities you mentioned in LanSchool. - Inbuilt keyword library (user editable) - Keyword alerts for keyword/keyphrase matches - Automatic screenshot-capture when this occurs. - Reports generated of all keyword alerts by students. You can see this in action and an example report . I have PM'd you my details if you'd like to take a closer look - thanks!

Hi William, Although you are running LanSchool at the latest build, Microsoft Edge is not an officially-supported browser for LanSchool (IE/Chrome/Firefox/Safari, as well as their variants like Chromium). When Edge first launched as part of Windows 10 in 2015, there was no extension support which is what we use to limit website and record web hits to the LanSchool Report Server. Edge extensions were added much more recently but around the same time, Microsoft announced their new Edge which is Chromium-based, which we do support with the current extension, and this can already be downloaded in open beta: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4501095/download-microsoft-edge-based-on-chromium https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lanschool-web-helper/honjcnefekfnompampcpmcdadibmjhlk?hl=en Our current 'Edge support' goes as far as the registry entry you mentioned (ALLOW_METRO_IE). By default, we block Edge and force users to use a supported browser that we can track. That registry key removes that limitation (on by default). It can also be accessed in Adminster > Preferences in the Teacher Console, and the setting also applies to InPrivate/Incognito windows. Finally, if you want to use Limit Web in Edge, we do have an unoffiical workaround; https://www.howtogeek.com/411830/how-to-install-google-chrome-extensions-in-microsoft-edge/ You can add the LanSchool Chrome extension linked above using this method; please bear in mind it is not an official or supported method :-) If you need any further assistance, you can reach out to our UK support team at [email protected] or feel free to PM me any time.

Hi Mikeyw, I'm sure we can fit the bill with what you're looking for; typical deployment into a Windows environment for us is under an hour via GPO or SCCM. Will drop you a PM with some details. Adam

I'll add my two cents here as well, regarding best practices; We operate a fairly linear hierarchy; Server/Reports at the top (sees all PC's) > Techs (sees all staff/students) > Safeguarding (sees all students) > Teachers (sees their class of students) > Students (see no-one). At each level we can choose what level of access is granted to the one above it; for example, Techs can remotely control staff machines, but they can't see their screen (thumbnails) for privacy. The Teacher gets a brief moment to deny the remote control request coming in (i.e. if they're working on something private/sensitive), and the school can decide what the 'default position' is (whether a request on an idle machine will go through or not). All of these can be tweaked and changed by the school. In some rare cases, the school can also choose to allow the Students to opt out of being monitored as well, such as in a Steiner/Montessori school environment where the children have much more personal freedom than your typical state school. The same applies for BYOD; the school can choose to give the student the option to drop their visibility temporarily (i.e. between classes). For the staff machines, there is no individual/personal choice - as per Al's message above, we will consult with the school and then create and enforce different filtering/monitoring profiles that will determine exactly what data is a) monitored b) captured/logged c) reported on. For most schools, they will want the hardware reports to complete as usual (i.e. uptime, program utilisation, login histories etc) but user-centric data such as those mentioned in the OP (i.e. website histories) are not tracked. Keyword logging & keyword-alert automatic screenshots are disabled for staff by default and 99% of schools don't ask us to change it for fear of an uprising In my experience, the school will still be monitoring staff web traffic by the web filter, just not local machine activity (i.e keystrokes) via the local client, to respect their privacy and keep the peace, while still meeting the Ofsted reqiurements for safeguarding.

The Teacher Channel is greyed out to prevent Teachers (non-admins) from changing it; I would consider installing the LanSchool Tech Console which was designed for, among other things, moving Teachers/Students into different groups and administering the LanSchool fleet as a whole. You can find the MSI installer in the LanSchool zip under the 'Tech Console' subfolder. Here's a couple of videos that might help you out; Tech Console GPO - Configuring/Using Tech Console - Changing Channels/Groupings - If you're only looking to do this on a single machine that you have local admin rights to, then the Channel registry key under HKLM (as mentioned above) can be changed manually as well.

Hi mleffler, Technically speaking, v7.x is no longer officially supported as v8.x has been out for a couple of years now, but in the interest of helping, perhaps we can bounce a couple of ideas around Are the Student clients Windows, Mac, Chromebook or a mix? Same question for the Teacher Console(s)? What's your default browser (IE, Firefox, Safari, Chrome) and is the LanSchool Web Helper installed if the latter? Do you get the same error consistently on the same Students or does it move between them? Do you get the same error with two different Teacher Consoles? Do you get the same error when performing the same action from the Tech Console?

Depending on what you're looking for as desktop utilisation, LanSchool does this in the following areas; - Desktop user login history - Desktop login time/date/duration - Uitilisation (total uptime) - Program usage (by user, by PC) - Program utilisation (by time) - Application usage (by user, by PC) - Application utilisation (by time) - Hardware inventory (by PC and by network) - Software inventory (by PC and by network) - Licensing details (installed versions, installed counts etc). Would be keen to know if your requirements go further than the above as it's one of the areas we're currently developing on right now, so a perfect opportunity to flesh it out further if there is something obvious that we have missed

Great idea - have added our details in. There's plenty of other fields that could be added here, so other people can add more and we'll try to keep up filling them in Would be curious to know the general consensus on how important file access logging is to people. We have never had it raised before, and with more files being cloud hosted (Google Drive, OneDrive, SharePoint etc) and read/write permissions controlled by admins.

The other customer (mentioned above) was also using Surface Pro 4 devices - can you try updating the 520/540 Graphics driver and see if that helps with scaling? https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=49498 https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/88355/Intel-HD-Graphics-520 https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/88355/Intel-HD-Graphics-540

LanSchool can definitely take care of you here - PM'd you if you would like to arrange a demo.