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Hmmm It seems most people are sticking with forward incremental and active or synthetic fulls. I might change my backups to run in forward incremental, that way ill have a full backup each month that retains the older data that I can get it onto external HDD each month. I am now trying decide between the Synology RackStation RS2414RP+ with 12 drive bays and redundant PSU's or a 8 bay Synology Diskstation 1815+ Either solution will have WD Red 3TB or 4TB drives. The NAS will take over from my very old HP MSA60 SAN. NAS is considerably cheaper than SAN. I have around £2500 to spend.

Thanks. A few jobs overlapping is no trouble. When it takes an active full as part of the backup job, do these active fulls stay on the disk forever or are they only retained for as long as your backup chain is set to? For example if I set 62 restore points and active full to once a month, will it overwrite the active fulls after 2 months?

Sounds good. Unfortunately a SAN on its own (HP MSA 2040) is around £4,000 and 4TB disks several hundred each. I can't really afford that. A giant NAS is much more affordable at a couple of thousand with disks but it depends if that solution is going to be reliable and quick enough. So I think I'm going to give the following a go: Full Active > Reverse increments 28 days - Active Full - Reverse increments 28 days. 2nd weekend of the month full active to external media. The problem is my schedule means I can fit in the incremental jobs during the evenings but when it comes to using the same timings for full actives, I think they are going to overlap quite a lot. I don't want to manually capture full actives every month though.

Hi Peter, Thanks for the information. My 9TB SAN just isn't big enough to get a good schedule setup. Out of curiosity, are you running a SAN or a NAS? Many thanks

How often are you guys doing a Active Full backup? Two active fulls on disk of my file servers and I only have 1.6TB left out of 9TB I would need a massive SAN / NAS to get a good retention on disk.

Active Full only takes me a few hours per VM. Never takes days! Can you separate the full actives off to separate jobs so that they can be run at different times to the incremental jobs?

Ok so now i've got my head around it, I think the best I could probably do is 62 restore points and full active monthly. That would give me two months on disk with two active fulls. Ill take an external active full on day 28 too so anything out of the 62 days will revert to a monthly restore and anything within the 62 days can be restored on a day to day basis. The problem is because the Active Full has to be within the normal chain and these take considerably longer than the normal nightly increments, i'm going to have to try and work out a schedule that allows ample time for the active fulls to run on the last Saturday of each month but also carry out the increments overnight before school starts again the next day...that's going to be tricky. Cant you select a different time for the active fulls to run on the Saturday vs what time they run for the daily backups? Ahhh my head!

Thanks Steve. That makes a lot of sense, thanks! Will each full active backup take up the same amount of space? For example my file server is 1.2TB. Will each full active be 1.2TB? If so my SAN is going to run out of space before it can get to 120 restore points and 4 actives.

Oh ok it only does the full .vbk? Too much to get my head around on a Friday evening haha Basically I just want to be able to keep as many restore points on the SAN as possible so that I can recover files from a specific date. Before I had a full active then 120 reverse increments but it go corrupt so that was a bad idea as it took everything with it! I just need to break it down so that if a .vbk get corrupt, I only lose a months worth for example. I hope this makes sense too lol

Ok so you have a second repository? If I got the NAS we spoke about, I could do the reverse incremental, 27 restore points on my NAS then backup copy it across to the NAS and start again for another month? Eventually i'd end up with months worth with every day inbetween as restore points? I want a strategy that will allow me to restore on every day for several months if possible and active fulls every month for emergencies?

Ok so I have had Veeam in place for almost a year now and have been running reverse incremental backups. I wanted as many restore points as possible on my 12TB SAN for file servers and got up to 120 points. A disk failed in my SAN on Monday and now some of my backups are corrupt dispite replacing it straight away and having RAID 6 In place. Veeam are unable to recover. Just about to start again but wanted to know how you run your backups? If I run a reverse incremental with 28 restore points and a full active on first Saturday of each month, will it just give me a month of restore points for each copy of the full active? I want a strategy that will get me several months on disk to restore files if needed. I am already creating active full backup to external HDD every month for desaster recovery. Many thanks

Couple of grand at most (disks included)

48TB!!! That's nuts. 12TB simply doesn't cut it for me. 180 days on disk and I'm out of space. Need something that can support more storage but don't have thousands to spend. I do a full active to external HDD once a month but that takes days to run.

Hi everyone, I have a HP DL380 G6 server connected up to a HP MSA60 SAN at the moment which supports up to 12TB storage. Recently I've had a few disk failures and this has now resulted in the dreaded 'All instances of storage backup corrupt' message in Veeam resulting in data loss. I want to start thinking about replacing the SAN but budget is a limiting factor. A new SAN (HP 2040) is well over £4,000 and that's without disks. Is there a decent rack mount NAS I could use instead? What are the drawbacks of using a NAS with Veeam over a SAN? Any recommendations?

Thanks Nick. May I say what a fantastic system you have made! It looks great! Can anyone point me in the direction of how I now get this onto the internet?

Will give it a go, cheers. Opened up the database file, and managed to find the admin password....I'm in! Thanks very much.

Thanks Dave. So if I reset the SQL password, it should reset the helpdesk password too??

Hi Guys, We have a Liberum Help Desk setup here and when I started at the school the admin password wasn't handed over to me. Its causing quite a lot of problems now as new members of staff can't be added! Anyone know how I can reset / find out the admin password? I can see all the site files in ISS but if I browse to the admin / setup pages, it says access denied. Regards

I managed to edit the hapconfig.xml to remove the broken link and now i'm up and running woohoo!!

Ok thanks, would like to add that later! Nearly there....saved config, made changes to Web.config, logged in with my username password and got this error:

Cheers, that worked! Just trying to add Teachers as per your video and won't let me with this error:

Thanks Nick, really appreciate your help. Just rebooted the server, now get this error:

Perfect. I've created a new bind for https and now HAP+ setup is loading Just need to get around this problem now and should be good to go!

Ok yep its something to do with binding. I created a new bind and it takes me to a HAP+ setup page but everything has a red X and its not displaying the page I'm expecting. What should the bind information be?

Certainly.