Forgotten Features of Windows 8?

[Zoom7000]

After my mini fail of not knowing that ISO support is now built in to Windows 8, what other nifty new features of Windows 8 have been drowned out by the Metro Modern UI debate?

[Theblacksheep]

inbuilt AV

 

windows to go

 

native pdf reader

 

much faster boot

 

easy restore functions

 

info on lockscreen

 

decent multi monitor support

 

a windows thats actually usable on touch devices

 

native 3g data usage controls

 

arm support

 

store

Edited August 20, 2012 by Theblacksheep

[gshaw]

Native data sync via Skydrive

[SYNACK]

Better memory usage, ie10 with spellcheck, integrated flash, new really easy bootloader, lots of the wp7 goodness, cleanout button that restores to default is install.

[VeryPC_Ed]

Also some interesting changes with chkdsk and resolving problems without having to dismount / take system offline in certain sitiutaions - Redesigning chkdsk and the new NTFS health model - Building Windows 8 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

[zag]

I like the new copy dialogue.

[Theblacksheep]

WindowsKey and Print Screen

[Fry]

Personally I don't think there's much to warrant the price tag of the upgrade. Nothing in it I'd use that I don't get from third party tools already.

[Dos_Box]

Personally I don't think there's much to warrant the price tag of the upgrade. Nothing in it I'd use that I don't get from third party tools already.

 

I think that's the point. You don't need a raft of third party tools anymore.

[SYNACK]

I think that's the point. You don't need a raft of third party tools anymore.

 

It was the same thing with Vista and 7, incremental features that add to something better.

[CyberNerd]

I think that's the point. You don't need a raft of third party tools anymore.

 

Thats one of the major reasons I stopped using windows. Needing a 3rd party app to open a .xlsx .iso etc is absolutely crazy for a 'modern' OS.

Win7 seems to have got worse without hyperterminal or anything to access serial or SSH, even a telnet probe is difficult on win7.

Some of us need to use computers for sysadmin/network jobs and linux is the only viable method these days without spending half a day searching for 'tools' to complement what should already be incuded in an O/S

[SYNACK]

Thats one of the major reasons I stopped using windows. Needing a 3rd party app to open a .xlsx .iso etc is absolutely crazy for a 'modern' OS.

Win7 seems to have got worse without hyperterminal or anything to access serial or SSH, even a telnet probe is difficult on win7.

Some of us need to use computers for sysadmin/network jobs and linux is the only viable method these days without spending half a day searching for 'tools' to complement what should already be incuded in an O/S

 

It is a tad nuts but they are stuck between a rock and a hard place, if they bundle stuff they get sued by the EU, if they don't they get had for lacking features. Its happening again with Windows 8, IE bundled and you could install others but that's not good enough, Apple does not need to bundle Chrome and IE on an iPad and they are way closer to a dominant market share in tablets.

[sted]

It is a tad nuts but they are stuck between a rock and a hard place, if they bundle stuff they get sued by the EU, if they don't they get had for lacking features. Its happening again with Windows 8, IE bundled and you could install others but that's not good enough, Apple does not need to bundle Chrome and IE on an iPad and they are way closer to a dominant market share in tablets.

 

in theory itunes being required for ipad/phone/pod is much more restrictive than including a browser as surely not having a browser would render an os pointless and including firefox, chrome, opera, saffari and keeping them all up to date would be problamatic for ms

[CAM]

It is something I noticed with the EU browser law, it only works one way against MS' favour. They are forced to annoy users with a pop-up screen whilst other OS platforms aren't. Last time I mentioned it, someone pointed out that Linux has the repositories to download a new browser, but you still have to look for it otherwise you end up using the default shipped with the distro (normally Firefox these days).

 

Apple on the otherhand, their entire marketing strategy is based around locking users into the Apple Experience. How they are evading the EU's gaze is beyond me!

 

It does seem a little one-sided that Windows is the only OS forced to go through this annoying browser choice garbage.

[Dos_Box]

It is a tad nuts but they are stuck between a rock and a hard place, if they bundle stuff they get sued by the EU, if they don't they get had for lacking features. Its happening again with Windows 8, IE bundled and you could install others but that's not good enough, Apple does not need to bundle Chrome and IE on an iPad and they are way closer to a dominant market share in tablets.

 

That's the advantage Apple have. They are primarily a hardware vendor. They can put whatever they like on their products unlike Microsoft who, as a software vendor, have to cater for a wide range of compatible systems.

[CyberNerd]

It is something I noticed with the EU browser law, it only works one way against MS' favour. They are forced to annoy users with a pop-up screen whilst other OS platforms aren't. Last time I mentioned it, someone pointed out that Linux has the repositories to download a new browser, but you still have to look for it otherwise you end up using the default shipped with the distro (normally Firefox these days).

 

Apple on the otherhand, their entire marketing strategy is based around locking users into the Apple Experience. How they are evading the EU's gaze is beyond me!

 

It does seem a little one-sided that Windows is the only OS forced to go through this annoying browser choice garbage.

 

 

The EU ruling wasn't because MS had included IE into it's operating system; it was because they had integrated it so far into the OS they claimed it couldn't be removed without breaking the OS, and prevented OEM's from installing Netscape or Opera. Its a different situation with Apple because a) they don'y have a monopoly (yet) b) they don't have any OEMs.

If Apple get a monopoly (on ipads presumably - although this is looking unlikely) anyone would be free to bring an antritrust case against them

[localzuk]

The EU ruling wasn't because MS had included IE into it's operating system; it was because they had integrated it so far into the OS they claimed it couldn't be removed without breaking the OS, and prevented OEM's from installing Netscape or Opera. Its a different situation with Apple because a) they don'y have a monopoly (yet) b) they don't have any OEMs.

If Apple get a monopoly (on ipads presumably - although this is looking unlikely) anyone would be free to bring an antritrust case against them

 

The ruling was because Microsoft had leveraged their de facto monopoly in the OS market, and combined it with their insider knowledge of the subsystems of the OS in order to build IE into the OS, forcing their way into another market whilst excluding other browsers from having access of the same level (meaning, therefore, that performance and capability of competing browsers was reduced). They also added in the requirement that OEMs didn't include other browsers too. Part of the ruling was to produce a version of Windows without IE included and making it available for sale (the N editions).

 

The same thing happened with Media Player in another case - leading to the 'K' editions of Windows.

 

Has anyone ever installed with of those?

[SYNACK]

That's the advantage Apple have. They are primarily a hardware vendor. They can put whatever they like on their products unlike Microsoft who, as a software vendor, have to cater for a wide range of compatible systems.

 

Maybe this is why they are making the Surface themselves, perhaps the EU will only get the MS hardware version of the ARM ones so they can't pull their silly games.

 

As to integrating IE into the OS, as it has been said before that's the only way that makes sense software wise. If your OS renders stuff like folder info bars, help files and active desktop you need a HTML engine in it. It needs to perform the expected way so simply ripping it out and replacing it with something else is not smart. Its funny, the same crew that usually go for html everything are the ones that go off at MS for IE which was one of the first lot to start doing lots of their internal OS layout in it. The whole thing is a competition between software decisions and political ones.

[JAB1a]

Steps recorder is brilliant! for making instructions for users

[Arthur]

http://i.imgur.com/BjB4j.png

 

Also new in RDP v8.0 is support for nested sessions. i.e. connecting to a different Remote Desktop Connection session within a Remote Desktop Connection session.