Student drop box (homework folder) permissions

[ashdon]

I would like to make a student drop box ( a homework folder) where the students can save documents only. I don't want students to see the other students documents in the folder, just be able to save their documents to the drop box folder. Then teachers would have permission to read and change the student documents. What permissions would the folder need for the students to save only. I have tried several combinations of permissions, but have not found a way to do this.

 

This would be on a Windows Server 2003 Standard Server.

[bishopsgarthstockton]

Create 'teacher name' post box and set the following permissions for staff and students

 

students

write

 

staff

-Modify, Read & execute, List folder contents, Read, Write

 

'teacher name' owner of the post box

 

-Full permission

 

I suggest you set a folder quota on each post box this will force the staff to clear there own post box, saving you the time of having to go clear them your self.

 

Also when the kids save the work, they will need to put the first initial and last name at the end of the file name, otherwise if a full class saves there science coursework as 'science courswork' and copys that file to the teachers post box, they will just overwite each others work.

 

You can demon starte that to the staff when you show them.

[ashdon]

I gave students 'write' and when they tried to save they got the message 'access denied'.

[bishopsgarthstockton]

right click the 'teacher name' post box select properties and have a look see what effective permissions are set for the folder under your students group.

 

I have

 

Create/Write data

Create folders/append data

Writte attributes

Write Enable attributes

Read permissons

 

checked

[ashdon]

I checked and made sure all of what you listed were checked. When student logged on he got 'dropbox is not accessible' 'access is denied'

[strawberry]

sounds like your sharing permissions might be off then matey.

[ashdon]

This is what I did:

 

Made folder called "Public" and it is shared as "Public" and users have "Change and Read" permissions on the share.

 

Inside the "Public" folder is a folder called "Test Dropbox". It is shared as "Test Dropbox and "Everyone" has "Change and Read"

 

Under the Security Tab, "students" have Create Files/Write Data, Create Folders/Append Data, Write Attributes, Write Extended Attributes and Read permissions.

 

"Apply these permissions to objects and or containers within this container only is not checked.

 

In Advanced Security setting box....Allow inheritable permission from the parent to this object and all child objects is not checked.

 

Replace permission entries on all child objects with entries shown here that apply to child object is not checked.

[bishopsgarthstockton]

 

Made folder called "Public" and it is shared as "Public" and users have "Change and Read" permissions on the share.

 

 

you need to give the everyone group under share tab permissions 'Full control'

[bishopsgarthstockton]

Correct me if im wrong

 

but when you share a folder on an NTFS drive you should give the shared folder everyone group full control and then setup the ntfs permissions, other wise you will get conflict.

[ashdon]

I changed "everyone" to 'full control" as you suggested and students still get 'access denied' message.

[MkII]

The way i set up mine students can only copy files to it, not save there. If they can write, then they have permissions to do stuff I don't want them to.. IIRC.

 

Very interesting - I'd love to see how others set this up

[amfony]

i wrote a php site to do exsactly this:

 

criteria for submission (file size, extention type, time of day {IE submission window}, date) - if these arnt satified then submission is rejected.

 

teachers to email to an automated recipient their class name and window times where the php site will use this info to display on the site, and fill in all relative fields in drop downs.

 

uses client side scripting to retrieve AD username/computername and add these details to drop folder when renaming the student files.

 

send confirmation emails to student/staff about successful file submssion.

 

and some other things ... which i like to keep proprietary. :S

 

enjoi!

[MkII]

Sounds great - where do we send the money?

[enjay]

You can do this by setting up the permissions as detailed earlier, i.e. teacher = modify, student=write. The students must save the file in their own area first and then copy it, go to the folder containing the drop-box, right-click on the drop-box folder and select paste - you can't save directly into the drop-box.

[woody619]

I'm running server 2003 and placing the permissions for "write" (only) on the dropbox folder for my students security group. My clients are running win xp pro.

 

The share permissions are "everyone" full control. It doesn't work.

 

they get the error message: Cannot copy "filename": The operation completed successfully.

 

I've tried right clicking and pasting the file too...

 

I know it shouldn't be this complicated. Has anyone figured it out yet? Thanks

Edited May 29, 2008 by woody619

[bmdixon]

Make sure you don't inherit permissions from the parent folder, then set the permissions as shown in the picture. This is how we do it and it allows students to drag-and-drop their work into the dropbox. they can't open the folder so therefore can't copy other peoples work

[woody619]

Thanks bmdixon... that works! That's what I've been looking for. I'm sure many others can use that answer! My Students group with those (picture) permissions, worked like a champ. Just need the following checked. Traverse Folder / Execute File, Read Attributes, Create Files / Write Data, Create Folders / Append Data, Write Attributes, Read Permissions... have fun! Edited May 30, 2008 by woody619

[cyberwarrior101]

:mad:I've created a Group for Students and assigned those EXACT same permissions and it fails. If I give Change permissions, everything works. If I give Students READ access to the folder, an Creator Owner MODIFY permissions it works, of course now students can modifiy files that only they create. When I duplicate your screen shot w/ permissions I get a message that they do not have sufficient writes to save a file...

 

I know it's not rocket science, but .... ugggh!

 

I've gone into advanced properties, and modified the permissions to match the picture above and it gives that error..

[woody619]

so you have the (share) permissions to "Everyone" Read/Write AND the (security) permissions to as they are in the picture? Are you sure they're not in any other groups that may affect permissions? Like i have a "students" group and "2013" group.

[bmdixon]

:mad:I've created a Group for Students and assigned those EXACT same permissions and it fails. If I give Change permissions, everything works. If I give Students READ access to the folder, an Creator Owner MODIFY permissions it works, of course now students can modifiy files that only they create. When I duplicate your screen shot w/ permissions I get a message that they do not have sufficient writes to save a file...

 

I know it's not rocket science, but .... ugggh!

 

I've gone into advanced properties, and modified the permissions to match the picture above and it gives that error..

 

Make sure they are dragging and dropping the files into the folder. They won't be able to view the folder or save directly to it. It definitely works with these permssions so there must be something else affecting it.

[gjdb]

This is how I have done this, a student has to create a directory with his own name and/or student number and in this directory he/she can put stuff.

Other students can not access a directory created by another student.

[CLSadmin]

I've tried these settings above from BMDixon on a Windows 2008 server and tested it on an XP PC, works fine. However, I get "Location is not available" for Win7. Is anyone else having this problem?