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If we get into the real world of business Microsoft et al want to make money, the best way they can do that is by separating out personal (Windows RT/8) from professional (Pro).

 

So there is no technical reason it is pure business - something we will never be able to escape.

 

Oooh don't worry there will be a keyboard click ;)

 

Yup it comes down to that and it as a pure tech-head it irritates the hell out of me, the point a couple of posts up about the cost increase of the new tablets says it all really :p

 

This video is sounding epic already, nice work! Have been impressed with Office 2013 on the desktop so hoping it works as well on a tablet, certainly the fluidity of the interface should suit it down to the ground.

jamesfed

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Can you do some vids on enabling local gpo, editing local gpo and mmc's

 

By chance is this from the point of view of using it as a locked down device in a classroom?

SYNACK

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By chance is this from the point of view of using it as a locked down device in a classroom?

 

I imagine they will be hackable to function in such a way and it is certainly a shorter road than making an iPad multi user. They could be quite useful but unfortunately they are targeted at single users. I just wish that MS was releasing a school device with an Atom CPU, surface toughness and x86 flexibility. Saying that the RT should be a very useful personal device especially for the pastel using crowd as a main device and a companion device for those that actually have a clue as to what a computer can do. There is actually a project on the WM forum (stupidly can't remember the name now) to hack enabling of desktop .net apps on a RT device. Not the best solution though.

 

On topic, the integration with 365 if you have access to it would be an epic video, skydrive pro etc.

Theblacksheep

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By chance is this from the point of view of using it as a locked down device in a classroom?

 

 

I'm actually thinking for a few members of staff, a few things configured to make things easier for them, a few things locked out but not completely locked down.

 

Also does the store RDP app work on it?

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I'm actually thinking for a few members of staff, a few things configured to make things easier for them, a few things locked out but not completely locked down.

 

Also does the store RDP app work on it?

 

Would everyone be happy if I just said that it is possible to get to local GPO, MMC and regedit just as you would on any normal windows PC? If so then yes you can do all of these things.

 

Still against the idea of using it as a multi user device so pllllllease don't even try it and just get a x86 tablet!

 

RDP works great video to follow :)

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Theblacksheep

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Would everyone be happy if I just said that it is possible to get to local GPO, MMC and regedit just as you would on any normal windows PC? If so then yes you can do all of these things.

 

Still against the idea of using it as a multi user device so pllllllease don't even try it and just get a x86 tablet!

 

RDP works great video to follow :)

 

Yep, that'll do nicely.

 

RDP :)

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Yep, that'll do nicely.

 

RDP :)

@jamesfed - Umm, video playback through RDP (wmv/directx offloading via RDP 7) and remoteFX if you have servers about that support it.

 

EDIT: Can probably hook you up with a temp Office 365 account for demo if required.

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jamesfed

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Last video of the day (number 5) now up-

 

 

Surface with a second display and using a keyboard and mouse.

 

Shows off command prompt, Word and PowerPoint, mmc (I caved!) with cert manager and GPO not to mention.......a quick show off of RDP ;)

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After watching your videos I'm now feeling very very impatient while waiting for the delivery of mine! >_< Couldn't order it until monday just gone and they've said up to 3 weeks for delivery, so each day feels like it "could" be xmas at the moment :p
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does the RT have a standard Windows login screen so it can be used as a true multi user tablet?

Different users are able to sign into a Surface tablet using their own Microsoft Account.

 

Switch accounts

If someone else wants to use your Surface, you can switch accounts without signing out or closing your apps. To switch to a different account, follow these steps:

 

  • From Start, tap or click your account picture in the upper-right corner.
  • Tap or click Sign out or Lock.

Signing out of Windows closes all of the apps that you were using.

 

Locking Surface lets someone else sign in to Windows with their account and doesn't close the apps that you were using. For more info about locking Surface, see Power, standby and wake. (Source)

 

http://i.imgur.com/51xII.jpg

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and if a "hotmail" Microsoft Account is linked to an AD account will it authenticate to a domain?

From what I have read, you can access file shares using your domain credentials, but you can't sign into the Surface with a domain account (even if you connect them). Domain credentials are never uploaded to Microsoft's cloud so the Surface RT wouldn't be able to use them for signing in.

 

It’s possible, though I don't recommend it, to use a local account on the Surface RT, but by doing so you'll limit the device experience. For one thing, you will not be able to purchase, download and install content from the Microsoft Store. The Surface RT is not able to be domain joined and you cannot sign in with a domain account. (Source)

 

About Connected Accounts

Windows 8 introduces a new concept called a "connected account" that provides:

 

  • The ability to "roam" your personalization settings (for example, your Lock screen picture or your desktop background) across multiple computers
  • Single sign-on for Windows Live services that require a Microsoft account (also known as a Windows Live ID) for authentication

When you sync your settings with a connected account, the settings are stored in the cloud. When you sign in to any Windows 8 PC with a connected account, the settings are then loaded on that PC. It's as if your Windows experience follows you around.

 

This guide discusses a particular type of connected account. With Windows 8, you can connect your Microsoft account to your corporate domain account. After you connect the accounts, you will continue to sign in to your office PC with your domain (network) credentials. But the connected account makes it possible to sync your Windows personalization settings across multiple PCs and provides single sign-on to Windows Live services. The connected account also makes it easy to access the Windows Store from your office computer since the Windows Store requires a Microsoft account for sign in.

 

Keeping it All Secure

Corporate credentials that you enter on a domain-joined PC are not uploaded to the cloud and are never synced to your other PCs. This ensures that your corporate credentials stay on your IT-managed PC.

When you sign in to a Windows 8 PC with a connected account, only a small amount of data (first name, last name, and display name) is shared with Windows. Windows does not use any of your other profile data. Your profile data stored in the cloud is released to apps or websites that you allow to have that data. While any modern-style app can leverage a Microsoft account for sign-in authentication, these apps must always ask you first if you want to allow access to particular details from your profile. (Source)

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jamesfed

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Latest video now up -

 

Typing with touch cover and on screen - also cheating using a propper keyboard thanks to USB support!

 

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Its time for video again!

 

This time looking at Encryption in Windows RT with a TPM chip-

 

Something we may all like is that the Surface RT comes right out of the box with Encryption turned on using the TPM chip that built right in.

 

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jamesfed

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Using a Xbox 360 Controller with Surface RT....I think so!

 

 

More in depth look at games coming soon :)

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gshaw

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From what I have read, you can access file shares using your domain credentials, but you can't sign into the Surface with a domain account (even if you connect them). Domain credentials are never uploaded to Microsoft's cloud so the Surface RT wouldn't be able to use them for signing in.

 

What about if your Office 365 is set up to use Federated authentication via ADFS? In which case your Office 365 account is basically your domain account but authenticating through 365?

 

I still reckon RT with students using Office 365 will work well as a classroom device if HP & co. can't \ won't hit the magic price \ quality \ performance sweet spot with full fat Win8 tablets

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