Printer GPP randomly being a PITA

[sonofsanta]

Ok riddle me this, If you setup a printer in GPP and logon it applies succesfully, logoff and logon again I get a 4098 event id logged.

 

The user '06laser01' preference item in the 'Deploy Printers - Student {6BC157D0-1397-4B1D-AC44-2CC54076EA24}' Group Policy object did not apply because it failed with error code '0x80070bc4 No printers were found.' This error was suppressed.

 

If I delete all network printers on logoff and logon again I don't get that event id logged????

 

Ben

 

That sounds similiar to what I had - can't remember the exact event ID, but it was intermittently claiming that it couldn't find the printer despite having added it perfectly fine for the previous fifteen logons, and it would proceed to add it fine for the following fifteen.

 

TechNet threads suggested that using the FQDN of the print server would help, but it never fully resolved it for me. Never did find any rhyme or reason for it. Running a gpupdate /force /scope:user (or w/e) after login using the GPO to "Run following application at logon"* seemed to work well, but we still had printers disappearing at policy refresh; disabling the eval of printer policy at refresh stopped the logon gpupdate doing anything, so it was a rock and a hard place.

 

Hence I now use scripting.

 

 

*running it as a logon script delayed the appearance of the desktop by ten seconds or so; setting it to run at login this way meant it ran after the desktop was displayed, and it was fine to run alongside anything else the user was doing.

[plexer]

It's not a case of sometimes working for me it ither installs the printer or doesn't.

 

The printers that work have drivers which are listed as packaged = true in print management, the konica drivers listed as packaged = false do not deploy and give the access denied message.

 

I have changed the point and print restrictions as per other threads and it makes no difference.

 

If I change the print driver to a different one for example the HP universal driver which is listed as packaged that deploys fine.

 

If I log on to a multipoint session as local admin even the non packaged drivers work.

 

Ben

[plexer]

If I log on as local admin and connect to the printer then the driver gets downloaded to the local store and subsequent logons for all users will install the printer as expected.

 

So driver security, arghh!!!!!!!!

 

Ben

[VeryPC_Tom_M]

If I log on to a multipoint session as local admin even the non packaged drivers work.

 

If you're using MPS 2010 or 2011, AFAIK, best practise is to install all drivers in Maintenance Mode rather than Normal Mode.. It's certainly what I recommend!

[plexer]

Only been using the mps as the test main suites are win7. Don't see why drivers shouldn't install in login for users as expected.

 

Need to setup a virtual win7 machine as well really.

 

Ben

[plexer]

Right some more investigations have been done.

 

I've setup a GPP policy to apply 03laser01 with item level targetting on the computername for 03*, 06laser01 with item level targetting on the computername for 06* etc.....

 

In the GPP I've found that not using the "run in user context" has to be used otherwise the KM4650's don't deploy.

 

If a computer/user has no printers it works as expected on first login however subsequent logins will give errors, If I run a delete_printers vbscript manually before logging off and then log back on again it works perfectly.

 

Using my existing login script for my Win7 clients is no good as the Konica Minolta 4650en drivers don't deploy to the user.

 

Ben