PC replacement for July

[MrWu]

Hi

 

We are looking to replacing 70 PCs in July/August.

 

No OS required..we were looking at a spec similar to this:

 

The 2002U

 

But with an 60gb SSD instead of a standard HDD

 

Anyone know had experience with other brands, maybe even bespoke?

 

Ta

[twin--turbo]

Get one on approval and asses the build quality and how much the pupils will pull them appart.

 

We had a good relationship with Stone when we were still in a position to buy, they only got in the door as I insisted on having a system to test and examine for robustness.

 

You want fixed voltage PSU's

You want solid platics

Do you need the optical drive????

 

Rob

[jamesfed]

If you call up Novatech they can do bespoke stuff

 

We are getting them to put together some of their nBox HDs for us with 60GB SSDs.

[teejay]

Hi

 

We are looking to replacing 70 PCs in July/August.

 

No OS required..we were looking at a spec similar to this:

 

The 2002U

 

But with an 60gb SSD instead of a standard HDD

 

Anyone know had experience with other brands, maybe even bespoke?

 

Ta

 

If you are putting Microsoft Windows on them then unless you have a full retail copy of Windows for each machine then yes you do need a Winodws OS on them. OEM licences from your old machines are not transfereable and if you have a schools agreement or EES then that is upgrade only, you need an existing licence to upgrade from.

If you're putting Linux or some other OS on, then ignore above:p

[Millgate]

What about Very PC? They do bespoke builds and are very good quality.

 

Let me know if you interested and what spec you want and I'll arrange a demo unit for you

[dgsmith]

No OS required..

 

Think it's important to query this, as it'd only be legal if either you're not running Windows on them (unlikely) or if you have 70x retail version of windows licences which you plan on arranging with Microsoft to carry over to new hardware (even more unlikely)..

 

You may not know, but even if you do it's useful for those that don't.. Windows volume licence doesn't mean you can buy PC without base licence, it's upgrade only!

 

[edit]beaten to it in a post above [/edit]

 

If doing SSD, i'd seriously consider going to a 128GB HDD. Some say they only use ~30GB now, but then you may regret it further down the line, and it's always easier to get the additional funds now when you're buying them new than in 3yrs time. Otherwise that is practically identical spec we would like to get for our next replacement.

[MrWu]

Thanks Jamesfed,

 

In fact we have been using Novatechs at our school, did get a quote from them for the link in my OP.

 

Now that I know they do bespoke I can get them to replace 500gb HDD with 60gb SSD, by my estimate £5 difference in price :-)

[MrWu]

Good call on the OS side and EES agreement, did not know that!

 

Blimey Luke...you work late, i will PM you the requirements! :-)

[glennda]

talk to stone - brilliant machines and very flexible on price!

[Millgate]

Good call on the OS side and EES agreement, did not know that!

 

Blimey Luke...you work late, i will PM you the requirements! :-)

 

I'm always working chap, ha. I just thought I'd see what was happening on here.

 

No problem, pm away!

[alexyarm]

Can I have the old ones

[MrWu]

Can I have the old ones

 

Of course....but it's had years of teacher abuse, so only if you are sure... ;-)

[Arthur]

Now that I know they do bespoke I can get them to replace 500GB HDD with 60GB SSD, by my estimate £5 difference in price

If budget allows, I would do what @dgsmith recommended and buy 120GB/128GB SSDs instead of 60GB drives. There isn't that much of a difference in price, they will be faster and you won't run out of space a few years down the line.

 

64GB Samsung 830 - £47.49

64GB Crucial M4 - £49.43

120GB SanDisk Extreme - £66.65

128GB Samsung 830 - £66.66

128GB Crucial M4 - £72.49

256GB Crucial M4 - £91.66 « found this on the Hexus forums

[jamesfed]

If budget allows, I would do what @dgsmithfaster and you won't run out of space a few years down the line.

 

Long live App-V

 

OS, App-V client and Office 20xx pre cached - much less than 20GB

[teejay]

It's also worth looking at the tier 1 manufacturers, with that number they will do you a custom build and you'd be surprised how much the price drops, so worth getting pricing for Lenovo, Dell & HP.

[K.C.Leblanc]

It's also worth looking at the tier 1 manufacturers, with that number they will do you a custom build and you'd be surprised how much the price drops, so worth getting pricing for Lenovo, Dell & HP.

 

Also look out for cashback deals of other specials. Just bare in mind with HP (and probably the others) is as soon as your of goes through the 'special bid' process to get the price down it'll become intelligible for the cashback. If you want to use cashback stipulate that fact when you get quotes and insist it's stated on the quote.

 

EDIT; And as other have said you will need an OS license, but the cheapest version of 7 should be enough if you have a volume license.

Edited June 25, 2012 by K.C.Leblanc

[teejay]

The cashback on HP stuff is usually limited to a maximum of 25 claims per model IIRC, so may not be beneficial in this instance, but depends on the cashback deal.

[K.C.Leblanc]

The cashback on HP stuff is usually limited to a maximum of 25 claims per model IIRC, so may not be beneficial in this instance, but depends on the cashback deal.

 

Last time we did it (which was a while ago) you could make as many claims as you like as long as there wasn't a single invoice for more then 25 machines, we just got the supplier to break it down to several separate orders. But please read the small print first, don't just take my word for it.

Edited June 25, 2012 by K.C.Leblanc

[glennda]

Also you might still be able to purchase a cheap version of Vista rather then windows 7 home - might be slightly cheaper if it is still available!

[MrWu]

Also you might still be able to purchase a cheap version of Vista rather then windows 7 home - might be slightly cheaper if it is still available!

 

Cheers glenda

 

More a sanity check really the EES agreement, which I understand is an OS upgrade licence, Windows 7, Vista basic or home still qualifies ok to a Windows 7 Pro EES upgrade?

[glennda]

Cheers glenda

 

More a sanity check really the EES agreement, which I understand is an OS upgrade licence, Windows 7, Vista basic or home still qualifies ok to a Windows 7 Pro EES upgrade?

 

I think so - well at least it used to under the old schools agreement - perhaps somebody with an EES agreement will be able to say more defiantly. or @Millgate might know?

[sonofsanta]

Cheers glenda

 

More a sanity check really the EES agreement, which I understand is an OS upgrade licence, Windows 7, Vista basic or home still qualifies ok to a Windows 7 Pro EES upgrade?

 

Any OEM Windows licence is sufficient, the only problem is that they only sell Win7 OEM stickers now :/ although you can at least save some pennies by just getting the home versions on the OEM licence.

[glennda]

Any OEM Windows licence is sufficient, the only problem is that they only sell Win7 OEM stickers now :/ although you can at least save some pennies by just getting the home versions on the OEM licence.

 

That's what i wasn't sure of!

[teejay]

You may find this useful, the full list of what you can upgrade from here. I presume EES is under the Academic licences which gives you more upgrade options.

[Millgate]

I think so - well at least it used to under the old schools agreement - perhaps somebody with an EES agreement will be able to say more defiantly. or @Millgate might know?

 

Just seen this

 

Yes you are right, as long as the kit has an OS on it, you can upgrade it under the EES agreement