DSapseid Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 In the summer i am starting from scratch and building a whole new domain on 2008R2, ive just got a couple of questions and would be grateful of people input. For the domain name im going to use the schools initials, for the fqdn i was going to go with schools_intials.academies_trust_initials.org. Should it be longer than that? my current domain has 5 words seperated by a full stop. I am also going to host my own exchange and ditch the county emails as we are no longer county! I need to speak to my isp (lea!!) about getting the right ports unblocked to allow the emails to be passed to the exchange server. What ports does exchange server use? A quick google lists loads of different ones!!
sted Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 unless you need the domain to be visible to the outside world id keep it short something like school.internal adn even if it does need to be accessible from the outside world you can use aliases
DSapseid Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 exchange will be, does that make a difference?
sted Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 exchange will be, does that make a difference? pass i havnt touched exchange in years and then it was a few tweeks ive never set it up
cromertech Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Don't make your domain too complicated. If you are not hosting the public facing web pages you can use a .local domain and if you do that just school_name.local will suffice. It also means that people won't get too freaked out by their pc telling them to log in to ABC.123.org Exchange will need different ports open depending on whether you want to use POP or IMAP plus whatever authentication to LDAP requires. Microsoft's list is here TCP ports and Microsoft Exchange: In-depth discussion
sted Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 i thought .local was a bad idea as macs and other things use .local for something or other and can cause issues hence .internal 1
ben604 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 We're going to .internal in the summer. Keep it simple.
Quackers Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 We use our schools FQDN for our AD with split DNS, made things easier for us. For example Outlook Anywhere. That way mail.school.com is the address if you are inside school our outside. If inside our internal DNS servers resolve ito the private IP, if your offsite our external DNS servers resolive it to our public address.
jamesfed Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 We've got our schools website domain name as our FQDN and wouldn't have it any other way. It helps to create a new uniformed look (schoolname.county.sch.uk) and although you may not be part of a LEA you are still in a county somewhere. We take it one step further for our internal websites by having staffhome.internal.schoolname.county.sch.uk (or whatever other internal site it maybe).
DSapseid Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 so if my website is going to be schoolname.com then my domain should be called schoolname.com with the netbios name of say schoolname or schoolinitials?
cromertech Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 i thought .local was a bad idea as macs and other things use .local for something or other and can cause issues hence .internal Never come across any issues but then again don't have macs. Inherited the domain name and don't really want to go to the bother of changing it. I would prefer if it wasn't the generic windows 2000 domain name (the old tech just accepted the default)
Quackers Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 so if my website is going to be schoolname.com then my domain should be called schoolname.com with the netbios name of say schoolname or schoolinitials? Lets say the school was called Green Hills, in staffordshire i would have my AD domain as greenhills.staffs.sch.uk and netbios of GREENHILLS
rh91uk Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 i thought .local was a bad idea as macs and other things use .local for something or other and can cause issues hence .internal Used to be, I haven'th ad any issues at all with 10.7.3+. I use .local (str.local) and it works fine. Just make sure your DNS is all OK In terms of Exchange there are no issues as long as you set the MX handler on the external domain and sort the email address policies out Good luck!
Dos_Box Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Moving to Server 2008 R2 forum as it's a server, and not a physical network issue.
twin--turbo Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 schoolname.internal is what we use for the AD domain for the afformentioned MAC issues. the doamin hosts two OU's for our two schools across a 1Gb fiber 5Mile wan link, For exchange make sure you buy a 5server SSL Certificate ( a go daddy one ) in order to fully support autodiscover and other services correctly on the outside world. You seriously need to consider how you protect exchange from spam attacks. We use ClearOS as a mail realy between the outside world and the exchange server. We run BES/Exchange mailbox, Exchange CAS and the ClearOS servers all on one Xen5 Hypervisor. Rob
DSapseid Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 Used to be, I haven'th ad any issues at all with 10.7.3+. I use .local (str.local) and it works fine. Just make sure your DNS is all OK In terms of Exchange there are no issues as long as you set the MX handler on the external domain and sort the email address policies out Good luck! schoolname.internal is what we use for the AD domain for the afformentioned MAC issues. the doamin hosts two OU's for our two schools across a 1Gb fiber 5Mile wan link, For exchange make sure you buy a 5server SSL Certificate ( a go daddy one ) in order to fully support autodiscover and other services correctly on the outside world. You seriously need to consider how you protect exchange from spam attacks. We use ClearOS as a mail realy between the outside world and the exchange server. We run BES/Exchange mailbox, Exchange CAS and the ClearOS servers all on one Xen5 Hypervisor. Rob Exchange 2010 is going to be installed by a consultant so they will do all that for me.
jamesfed Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 so if my website is going to be schoolname.com then my domain should be called schoolname.com with the netbios name of say schoolname or schoolinitials? Its not that you should call it but that’s just what we do (to keep everything uniform). Our NETBIOS name is just DOMAIN (shorter to type when domain joining things and it looks funny when you get 'The domain domain is not available'). At our most recently kitted out Primary School we went for their NETBIOS to be their school name though.
TechMonkey Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 We are moving to INITIALS.internal, you can set exchange to use your full domain and use DNS to forward your domain. I was told the same as someone mentioned, that unless you are hosting lots of internal services to be published don't use your Domain name as your FQDN. Safer and clearer on what is external and internal.
twin--turbo Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Exchange 2010 is going to be installed by a consultant so they will do all that for me. I did ours having never used exchange before, learned a lot from it. What Filtering are they putting in? Rob
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