gshaw Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 I'd be blaming the website managers rather than an over-enthusiastic fan... and the authorities wonder why people have such a disdain for copyright law... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17767236 Norwich City call police after 17-year-old fan leaks new kit pictures - Odd News - Digital Spy
pete Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Idiots. "Hey, we made something publicly available on our website and someone accessed it......so we shall call the police!" Yes, because that'll make you look sensible. Edited April 19, 2012 by pete
plexer Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Idiots. "Hey, we made something publicly available on our website and someone accessed it......so we shall call the police!" Yes, because that'll make you look sensible. Well he got them off the website before they had intended to go live and posted them on twitter and as they own the copyright on the images it's a perfectly legal stance to take, just because a picture is on a public website doesn't mean you can take a copy and put it elsewhere without the copyright holders permission. Ben
sonofsanta Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 It is pretty pathetic and passing-the-blame to be honest, he didn't do any hacking, didn't gain any unauthorised access - as no authorisation was asked for - just that their web admins are useless and need to learn to chmod.
Edu-IT Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Well he got them off the website before they had intended to go live and posted them on twitter and as they own the copyright on the images it's a perfectly legal stance to take, just because a picture is on a public website doesn't mean you can take a copy and put it elsewhere without the copyright holders permission. Ben Did he take a copy though, or did he link to them? If he linked to a page on their site then surely he's done nothing wrong?
pete Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Well he got them off the website before they had intended to go live and posted them on twitter and as they own the copyright on the images it's a perfectly legal stance to take, just because a picture is on a public website doesn't mean you can take a copy and put it elsewhere without the copyright holders permission. Ben However, there's a difference between: a) "Copyright is Serious Business!! To the Police". b) A quiet phone call to the kid, asking him to remove them from twitter until tomorrow when the kit's been released. Before engaging option "a". Bribe him with a free strip or something. b) is much better option from a PR point of view, especially since the problem only occurred due to their incompetence in the first place. 1
mthomas08 Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 If only Cops can say what I want to say each time some one calls me and says "Its not working" because its not plugged in.............
gshaw Posted April 19, 2012 Author Posted April 19, 2012 Well he got them off the website before they had intended to go live and posted them on twitter and as they own the copyright on the images it's a perfectly legal stance to take, just because a picture is on a public website doesn't mean you can take a copy and put it elsewhere without the copyright holders permission. Ben Unless you happen to be Google
penfold Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Well it seems they took another look http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17780084
X-13 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I was all prepared to release my righteous table-flipping fury... But it seems they realised they were being stupid.
sippo Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Well all you have to do is look here Football shirtculture.com - step into the world of football shirts | Football Shirt Culture.com
sonofsanta Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 "We knew security was very important to Norwich and although we believe we took appropriate security measures to secure the site we were devastated to learn that there was a way for images to be obtained earlier than the planned launch." "What do you mean, people can just look at the code? They could steal our websites anytime! To the courts!"
Chris_ Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Well he got them off the website before they had intended to go live and posted them on twitter and as they own the copyright on the images it's a perfectly legal stance to take, just because a picture is on a public website doesn't mean you can take a copy and put it elsewhere without the copyright holders permission. Ben To quote the article: Copyright infringement is only a criminal offence if someone makes money from it or causes the copyright owner serious damage. If that is not the case, it would be up to the club to take action - not the police.
CyberNerd Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I think someone in the club wrongly made the assumption that he had hacked their website, and reported the 'offence' without checking the facts.
X-13 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Copyright infringement is only a criminal offence if someone makes money from it or causes the copyright owner serious damage. Therefore, piracy isn't a crime unless you charge others for it. http://www.memes.at/animations/fine%20troll%20dancing.gif Edited April 20, 2012 by X-13
CyberNerd Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Therefore, piracy isn't a crime unless you charge others for it. true, it's not a criminal offence to copy things (despite what FACT et al would have you believe). You can still go to court for copyright infringement,it would be a civil matter and you don't get arrested for it.
SYNACK Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 TBH the laws are getting plainly stupid in most countries. You have large corporations that can do whatever they want for decades and only get brought into line when there is a huge public outcry but individuals will be charged for anything the cops can make stick - valid and true or not. It is just like a school really, bullies are used to enforce conformity to the expected norms, now in society the same thing is true and to the same petty extent. The popular/rich set the rules and then these are enforced on everyone. Its lucky in this instance that it was brought to the attention of everyone and they realised it was stupid, if that had not happened I don't think that sence would have prevailed. Keep your heads down and hire your freedom a newspaper and a track at a time from the new power brokers.
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