Adobe - Education Announcement (1 Dec)

[garethEds]

adobe are eventually catching on. Back in the day Microsoft practically encouraged students to pirate their software and I dare say adobe have done the same. Now the internet has changed, a momentum has built up (mostly from the film industry) portraying piracy as an evil, rather than a strategic method of making software available to potential customers. This isn't really the sort of image major software vendors can portray nowadays, hence the move.

 

My pupils tell me of a site were you can download CS5.5 for a cheap price with downloads available almost immediately.

 

I'm sure you could download it pretty quickly as well if you had a fast Bband connection. Adobe need to make it cheap enough that it doesn't get pirated.

 

Gareth

[CyberNerd]

My pupils tell me of a site were you can download CS5.5 for a cheap price with downloads available almost immediately.

 

I don't doubt it. It's something the large commercial vendors are secretly happy with. There's very little protection in certain software, and that has to be down to encouraging home use. This always helps bring software into institutions.

 

I used to pretty much live on pirated software; since the amiga days, then windows. Now I've just adjusted to running mostly open source or free to use software.

I know this doesn't sit well in a lot of schools. The argument for 'industry standard' has never really convinced me, I don't think schools should pander to what's best for a particular industry. If the industry is that interested they will pay for their software to be used. Otherwise it's what works for the school. Having simple to use applications that are accessible from anywhere on a ubiquity of platforms has a greater benefit to teaching and learning than costly solution that is restricted in its use.

[garethEds]

I've been told that the announcement is not happening now until Monday.

 

Gareth

[LosOjos]

My pupils tell me of a site were you can download CS5.5 for a cheap price with downloads available almost immediately.

 

I'm sure you could download it pretty quickly as well if you had a fast Bband connection. Adobe need to make it cheap enough that it doesn't get pirated.

 

Gareth

 

Did they mention the site? Even with student discount, I've not seen it for less than £300 (which I still don't consider cheap!)

[garethEds]

Did they mention the site? Even with student discount, I've not seen it for less than £300 (which I still don't consider cheap!)

 

I'm sorry I don't have the name of the site to hand. Not that I would advertise pirate software.

 

GJE

[LosOjos]

I'm sorry I don't have the name of the site to hand. Not that I would advertise pirate software.

 

GJE

 

My pupils tell me of a site were you can download CS5.5 for a cheap price with downloads available almost immediately.

 

Sorry Gareth, I wouldn't expect you to advertise pirate software, I took your post to mean they had found a site selling CS5.5 cheap and legally!

 

Student discounts, deals & offers for premium software in UK is about the cheapest place I've seen it

[garethEds]

Well I for one am disappointed with the Adobe announcement today.

 

Adobe Digital School Collection | Adobe UK Schools Blog

 

It comes with Premier Elements and Photoshop Elements. I wonder if it is worth upgrading from the full versions (at CS3) which we have as part of the Master Suite.

 

I don't know - I'm just a tad disappointed. We had a quote today for the packages (I won't say which supplier)

 

Digital School Collection V10 – 50 user licence pack @ £1390

 

Digital School Collection V10 – 100 user licence pack @ £2383

 

I just don't know. What do other people think? I still think Adobe have missed a trick here.

 

Gareth

[glennda]

Looking at over 21k for me to get that over 900 machines! its cheaper to buy master collection

[garethEds]

Yes - we had a quote for Master Collection for the whole site and it was around £8K - for 300 machines. I think I'd rather spend a little bit more to get the full kit (even if Premiere is 64 bit only).

 

Gareth

[john]

I think they have missed a trick with it personally, secondary schools in my experience may wish to start with the elements for youngers students but soon want to expand and move onto the full products, we used to have Premier Elements and Photoshop Elements in some rooms and then a room of Photoshop full and they were always fighting over the Photoshop room as it was the full thing with more toys etc... We now have a site license for Master Collection and it makes life much easier as they have the full works anywhere and everywhere and we haven't noticed any issues with the younger or less able students using the software as its new to most of them as our feeders don't have it so its new from a school perspective, fine some may have it at home and play / dabble but they have never been taught the skills and why you use the filters for real benifits other than cutting your head off and sticking it on a lego man or on a toned adonis of a guy / gal etc....

 

Something like EES would have been great but perhaps too damaging for the £££ for Adobe?