StewartKnight Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 I've just had this message written to me: dear mr knight, i overhear that you can see and read what i am typing. I find this most offensive and as this is not the matrix please stop spying on me. all I want is to go on myspace during my free periods and check my email. i am in 6th form and a female so therefore there is no interest in porn. I also believe that the world wide web belongs to everybody and no one person can own it or control it. i understand your need to stop immature children from going on pornographic websites and other websites during their lesson time, however I believe that i should have access toat least myspace. I mean come on. I just want to check if someones messaged me. you know what i cant be bothered with this anymore. stop freakin spying on me you scary man. I dont like it and its an invasion of my privacy. please stop before i get mad and do something drastic like crash your system. yeah i have friends that can do that i dont want to but if your gonna play like that with your matrix spy games then i guess its only fair... i would post you this but my bet is that your already reading it as I type or at least i hope so coz it saves me a whole lot of hassle. You are most scary with with your spying. yours faithfully kallinon. p.s. dungeons and dragons isnt real and i suggest you get out the house more. Which has really upset me..... I thought dungeons and dragons was real!
Halfmad Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 That's brightened up my day no end! Wish I had pupils that were that amusing! I do understand the frustation of 5th and 6th years in the school with regards to Bebo etc but there are reasons behind them being banned and we're not just doing it to give ourselves some sort of perverted power rush.
localzuk Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Don't you just love the maturity of sixth form students? The question is, did it get sent to you or were you 'spying'? I would simply relpy with a nice standard and boring sounding message stating that the network is for educational purposes only and under the RIPA you have to monitor it...
tosca925 Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 I'd got straight to SLT with it and see what their stance is? I don' think you should be spoken/written to like that?
Ashers Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Don't listen to them, Dungeons and Dragons is real, it's lies I tell you lies!
apeo Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Some what amusing and offensive at the same time... I would go with Tosca and show it to SLT. I would probably lock the account out too :twisted: , and myspace is banned here considering its nothing to do with education and its content can be dodgy. 1
Ben_Stanton Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Dump a load of porn on her personal drive and 'find it' whilst adhearing to RIPA... ...how do you like those cookies beee-atch Obviously I don't mean that. That would be an awful thing to do.
bossman Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 StewartKnight: What have you or do you intend to do about this? This so called mature 6th form student seems to me like they are suffering from mental health issues and if it were me that had received this i would have spoken to the head teacher on the matter as it is very scary.
apeo Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 StewartKnight: This so called mature 6th form student seems to me like they are suffering from mental health issues and if it were me that had received this i would have spoken to the head teacher on the matter as it is very scary. 8O Maybe she's suffering from exposure to wifi!!??
GrumbleDook Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Is this the sort of reply you are looking for? Dear Paranoid Whilst I understand your concern that there may be people policing the internet and you feel that this is neither appropriate or warranted, there are a few real world implications of what you wish. Just as I am watching you, there is someone watching me to make sure I do not allow any students or staff to have fun whilst on computers in school. If I do not do this properly the Americans will come and invade our school. We also have to check which student need the mind implant so we can read your thoughts. This is to save time reading every single one of the 40,000 emails that are sent or received by people in the school each day. Then we have to consider that you might be doing a double bluff. You may *claim* to be a sixth form girl, but I have it on good authority from a testing lab in China that you name is really David and you are going to compete in the women's 1500 metres in the London Olympics. This means that I cannot take seriously about what you say about not watching porn. I am glad you are scared ... you should be ... I have been watching you for weeks now and think you are ripe for the next phase of my plan. I will be using your brain as part of a supercomputer to bring D&D to life ... I had planned on using you as a Dwarf since you are already hairy and have a fondness for metal clothing, but you are obviously trying mind games with me ... so you are bumped up to an elven mage! I do hope you take chance to read this ... and remember ... I can talk rubbish too and the fact that you think I have time to even bother reading everything that every single person does is not only stupid, it is impossible. I have a life ... I have work to do as well. Most of the systems that check for things in breach of the AUP are automated and then report back when they find things ... most of the time these things are not a concern to me. As for more access to things on the internet ... I am afraid not. You are still a student here and there is still a duty of care that has to be applied. Part of the process of growing up is accepting that you cannot always control things you would like to control and what you can and cannot access on the internet is one of them. When you get out into the big wide world tou may find that you have no external internet access at your workplace. This could be for security reasons, it could be for productivity reasons ... get used to it. Finally ... I have now deleted all your work, given everyone access to all your emails and sent porn from your email account to the Head. This message will delete once you have finished ready it .... Goodbye
Midget Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 I think it's partially tongue in cheek. I'd make a point of spying on her. Put "I can see you.txt" in her user space. There's no point blowing it out or proportion.
Midget Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Tony> either you have FAR too much time on your hands or you have a bank of preprepared letters. I'm not sure which one worries me the most
StewartKnight Posted April 30, 2007 Author Posted April 30, 2007 I sent her this reply, called "reply from Mr Knight" In response to the points you have highlighted in your message: Yes I can see what is happening on the network, any good network manager needs to be aware of the things happening on his network. I am not spying on you, I am checking that the network does not get abused. A number of the students take the mickey, therefore you make well only use the internet for anything other than school work during your free periods, however, other students don't, and I'm not prepared to make one rule for you, and one for the others, especially as you threaten to "crash the system". Earlier in the year, I was going to give 6th formers more freedom, however, a number of 6th formers went too far, and I put you all back on the same policy as the rest of the school, so, a number of people ruined it for the rest of you. I would point out, that if students behave as children, I will treat them as a children. We're you to send this message to the network manager of the company that you worked for, you could reasonably expect to be called to see your manager, and if not sacked, have a written warning. This is not an invasion of you privacy, in order to use these public computers, you do so under a set of rules, which you agreed to in Y7, and some of which are displayed on posters around the school. Whilst you claim that you believe "that the world wide web belongs to everybody and no one person can own it or control it.", this is a somewhat immature attitude. The www is still policed, even if you are unaware of it. Everything that is done on the internet is logged somewhere, that is how the police track and catch such people as paedophiles who use the internet. Website such as MySpace & Bebo are blocked because social network site are actively targeted by such people, and they are experts at deceiving young impressionable children. Therefore, the school has taken the decision to prevent the school computers being used to access sites such as these. I didn't make the decision, I just enforce it. Finally, I have never played D&D, although I am disappointed to find out that it isn't real. And in answer to localzuk, I have to admit that I picked it up whilst "spying" using Securus!!!!
tom_newton Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Might want to add PS. Myspace isnt real, you might want to get out of the house more. Might I suggest some games of "dungeons & dragons"?
GrumbleDook Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Tony> either you have FAR too much time on your hands or you have a bank of preprepared letters. I'm not sure which one worries me the most I have a number of prepared letters that I can take bits from. and an excuse server ... and an abuse server ...
alonebfg Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 I know of two students in a school near mine that got thrown out of school due to this you know what i cant be bothered with this anymore. stop freakin spying on me you scary man. I dont like it and its an invasion of my privacy. please stop before i get mad and do something drastic like crash your system. yeah i have friends that can do that i dont want to but if your gonna play like that with your matrix spy games then i guess its only fair... i would post you this but my bet is that your already reading it as I type or at least i hope so coz it saves me a whole lot of hassle. You are most scary with with your spying. its called bulling treating behaver and if you want to i know for a fact the police can get involved it could be messy but you are doing your job. If they were in work and did this it would be an instant dismissal. Also due to the fact they are in the 6th form they should know better and are more than likley over 16. This means jail lol. I know friend too lol.
Halfmad Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 How was it recieved? if she/he didn't send it then there's very little you can do, if she/he did then I'd probably take it further, it is almost a threat but the last thing you should really do is get into a conversation with them over it. You don't have the time to and frankly you don't need to justify you're position or the work you do!
apeo Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 its called bulling treating behaver Dear ... I cant come it today as there is a 6th form student picking on me .
Lee_K_81 Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 I sent her this reply, called "reply from Mr Knight" ...snip... Whilst you claim that you believe "that the world wide web belongs to everybody and no one person can own it or control it.", this is a somewhat immature attitude. The www is still policed, even if you are unaware of it. Everything that is done on the internet is logged somewhere, that is how the police track and catch such people as paedophiles who use the internet. I would have added that while the Internet may be "free" i.e. no one person / entity owns it, the damn internet connection she is trying to access it on is owned by the school. You gratiously give her "free" access, on the proviso that you control what comes in and out of the school via said connection. If she would like to contact BT, Virgin, etc. and pay for the installation of a dedicated line for herself to be accessed using her own computer she is more than welcome. Students. cant reason with 'em, hands-off policy says ya cant trottle 'em.
alonebfg Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 its called bulling treating behaver Dear ... I cant come it today as there is a 6th form student picking on me . lol not quite like that but telling the school she is going to get her friends to take down the network is treatning and is a police issue and if the network did go down she is in the limelight. Like i said two students played that one to get a tech to stop spying on them. And two days later his network crashed. These things can not be taking lightly. One policy i know of is to automatalicy stop all access to anyone who says things like that. Just think some students can do more than we like to think thay can. Its not a matter to take lightly.
apeo Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 @alonebfg: Just sounds funny but what you say is true enough and there are lots of kids with malicious intent. Quite amusing how dumb this person is (and a 6th form student too apparently), i meant making a threat is bad enough but to do it in writing... DUH.
alonebfg Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 we have the evodance and (my dads bigger than your dad type thing) but in the end they always trip them selvess up personaly i would block her access if she complains tell them that network is at risk (show letter) Then you get question but she needs access your reply well sorry too high risk if she need access will have to buy her own laptop and gprs pmcia card. I dont want my network to go down as it just just her work but everyones. and then watch her try and worm out of it.
phreak Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 HA Ha! Quality! All of it! I still think you should go all BOFH on her ass and hack her myspace account and trash it to teach her a lesson. Not that I would do that as I am too laid back... but you know... if I had a BOFH moment.
localzuk Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Just replace her desktop background with a photo of a dunce hat and send her to the corner
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