localzuk Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 This is a quick question for those of you who use Live@Edu. I understand that it integrates with your AD which is fine, but does it pick up 'contact' records from your AD, or is there a way of importing them into a global address list? The reason being, our LEA has a large global address list of every member of staff in the county, plus county departments etc... If we were to move away from their email system, we would need to be able to get that list from them and import it into our system. If we run our own exchange servers, we can do this using a piece of software they already have in place for other such schools (it works by exporting all the email details into 'Contact' objects in the AD, but I would love to know if it is possible with Live@Edu.
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) Hi You can export your contact details into CSV and then bulk import them into Live@Edu and Synch. See http://help.outlook.com/en-us/140/dd439356(classic).aspx Regards Sukh Edited March 8, 2011 by sukh
localzuk Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 Hi, sorry but how do I do a csv export from an exchange GAL? Also, that site talks of provisioning users, not populating a contacts list.
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi The site provisons users which includes getting user information from your directory (Users objects and Contacts). To export Contacts from your directory use LDIF/CSVDE which you can use. Do you have your own Exchange Org seperate from LEA or do you share? Thanks Sukh
localzuk Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 Hi The site provisons users which includes getting user information from your directory (Users objects and Contacts). To export Contacts from your directory use LDIF/CSVDE which you can use. Do you have your own Exchange Org seperate from LEA or do you share? Thanks Sukh Its an LEA system which we have no contact with other than users logging into Outlook and OWA.
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi In that case you have the option to either synch some of users or manually upload a CSV file with all your users in there. Do you have your own directory? A child domain? A resource directory? Thanks Sukh
localzuk Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 We have a separate domain. We can't do an ldap query on that domain, but what we can do is sign up to their joiner software and it will export all contacts into an OU structure in our domain, so we can then do with that whatever we want.
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi @CyberNerd Please see Decide How to Provision Users If not clear then let me know. Thanks Sukh
CyberNerd Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 We have a separate domain. We can't do an ldap query on that domain, but what we can do is sign up to their joiner software and it will export all contacts into an OU structure in our domain, so we can then do with that whatever we want. ok, once you've done that the ldap is a oneliner. ldapsearch -D "cn=ldap,cn=users,dc=example,dc=college,dc=internal" -w password "(objectclass=contact)" | grep mail
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi When you mean you have a seperat domain, do you mean a seperate domain in your own root directory or a child domain in the LEA directory? Regards Sukh
localzuk Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 Hi When you mean you have a seperat domain, do you mean a seperate domain in your own root directory or a child domain in the LEA directory? Regards Sukh Separate root. ie. we are completely independent from them.
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi So, I assume your goal is to get a list of all contacts from the LEA GAL? Or particular users? Particular address lists? Or everything? I assume there is a one-way trust only? Also, if you were to get this list, have you thought about how maintain this if new staff were added or removed from the LEA GAL? Regards Sukh
CyberNerd Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi @CyberNerd Please see Decide How to Provision Users If not clear then let me know. Thanks Sukh sounds like a proper PiTA. At least google apps will sync shared contacts from and active directory.
localzuk Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 Hi So, I assume your goal is to get a list of all contacts from the LEA GAL? Or particular users? Particular address lists? Or everything? I assume there is a one-way trust only? Also, if you were to get this list, have you thought about how maintain this if new staff were added or removed from the LEA GAL? Regards Sukh It'd be all contacts from the GAL. And there are no trusts involved at all. The systems are 100% independent of each other. We would need to be able to repeat the process at regular intervals to update our own list.
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi Cybernerd - What do you mean by PiTA? I believe this will too synch, however it seems like localzuk has a different root directory to where the contacts/users are in the GAL. Regards Sukh
CyberNerd Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi Cybernerd - What do you mean by PiTA? The user/contact/group sync from Active Directory looks more complicated / less integrated in live@edu than it is in google apps. A surprise for sure!
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi Any reason why you are not using the service offered by the LEA? I assume there is a cost involved? When you use Outlook to connect to Exchange, are you using Outlook Anywhwere/RPC over HTTPS? If so , what version? Regards Sukh
localzuk Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 Hi Any reason why you are not using the service offered by the LEA? I assume there is a cost involved? When you use Outlook to connect to Exchange, are you using Outlook Anywhwere/RPC over HTTPS? If so , what version? Regards Sukh If/when we become an academy, we would be paying for a service that we aren't happy with due to downtime etc... To the latter question - no idea. We don't get told things like that. We have outlook 2003 in use, and connect directly to the LEA exchange servers via our WAN.
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 OK, I assume you have made your mind up and have decided to go with Live@edu rather than having your own Exchange server? Which version of Outlook are you using? Can you check the profile of an email account and see what Exchange server you are connected to? Have you tried to connect to their AD via Users and Computers? Thanks Sukh
localzuk Posted March 10, 2011 Author Posted March 10, 2011 We don't really want our own exchange server, as it would mean more cost and more admin time. We're looking at offsite hosted solutions, live@edu is one of them, Google Apps is another. We're using Outlook 2003. How can you connect to their AD in Users and Computers? Their domain doesn't appear in our forest at all - ie. there are no links at all between our domains.
RabbieBurns Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 are you planning on using ILM with live@edu ?
localzuk Posted March 10, 2011 Author Posted March 10, 2011 are you planning on using ILM with live@edu ? Just looked at its requirements, and with all its license needs - I'd say not!
sukh Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Hi Can you check to see how you are connected using Outlook. If you got to the mail applet under control panel, and select a a mail profile>properties>Email accounts>Click Next>Click Change>Click More Settings>Click Connection Tab and check the setting "Exchange over the internet", see if you are using this option or not and check the proxy settings. Thanks Sukh
localzuk Posted March 10, 2011 Author Posted March 10, 2011 We're not using the 'Exchange over the internet', but we can do that now IIRC.
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