elsiegee40 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 I agree that people should answer honestly, but anyone who has researched their family tree will know that people don't always answer honestly. I have some ancestors that I could cheerfully strangle if they weren't already dead! It's not just questions about religion, but marital status, children... The census will never be 100% accurate and the more questions that are asked, the less likely that people will bother to complete it properly. People don't like to be asked detailed questions about their lives. This isn't an invitation for people to give comedy answers, but it is an inevitability. However, perhaps what it does measure is changing attitudes in society and that is useful.
Theblacksheep Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Wonder how hard they'll be on people who dont fill it in.
witch Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Wonder how hard they'll be on people who dont fill it in. Up to £1000 fine and a criminal record apparently. I heard some government bod talking on the radio and he stated that they are going to be cracking down on those who don't fill it in.
X-13 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 (edited) Up to £1000 fine and a criminal record apparently. Wow... a criminal record for not filling in a form? No wonder people mess about on it... It's taken way too seriously. Henceforth, I shall be a Sith lord. Edited March 3, 2011 by vikpaw pls don't swear.
Andrew_C Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 By answering "No Religion" maybe we can get our masters to realise that there is no place in our society for the "Lords Spiritual". Wholly christian (Sorry, wholly CofE), unelected, and VERY expensive to keep! 1
Theblacksheep Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Up to £1000 fine and a criminal record apparently. I heard some government bod talking on the radio and he stated that they are going to be cracking down on those who don't fill it in. Criminal record for not filling government records? Interesting the data sorted by temporary employees, stored by Lockheed Martin in the US and the data shared with UK governement agencies and approved researchers according to Statistics and Registration Services Act 2007.
localzuk Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Criminal record for not filling government records? Interesting the data sorted by temporary employees, stored by Lockheed Martin in the US and the data shared with UK governement agencies and approved researchers according to Statistics and Registration Services Act 2007. Its always been a crime not to fill in your census form I thought, so this is nothing new?
Theblacksheep Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 (edited) Its always been a crime not to fill in your census form I thought, so this is nothing new? Maybe not new, but doesnt make it ok. Data sharing is new, although PR from the OCR says they will be denying requests for information. Edited March 2, 2011 by Theblacksheep
localzuk Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Maybe not new, but doesnt make it ok. Why doesn't it? The census is an important tool for ensuring the government is providing the services it does to the right places. Without accurate information from the entire country, how can they do their job as effectively?
witch Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Why doesn't it? The census is an important tool for ensuring the government is providing the services it does to the right places. Without accurate information from the entire country, how can they do their job as effectively? Accurate, yes, but some of this year's questions are intrusive and not necessary 1
localzuk Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Accurate, yes, but some of this year's questions are intrusive and not necessary Which ones? As I've said, I don't think the religion one is intrusive or unnecessary.
MK-2 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Which ones? As I've said, I don't think the religion one is intrusive or unnecessary. I think it was this one: 6a) What bra size are you or how long to the nearest inch is your gentlemans sausage Either that or the one about personal income, I dunno. 2
Jon-Dukes Posted March 2, 2011 Author Posted March 2, 2011 I think it was this one: 6a) What bra size are you or how long to the nearest inch is your gentlemans sausage Either that or the one about personal income, I dunno. Haha. Excellent. This is the knid of thing I was expecting from this post, a bit of a giggle. It's all turned a little bit serious in here.
localzuk Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 The ideas for questions are in this document (well, the areas they will ask about anyway, not the questions themselves) - http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-census/2011-census-questionnaire-content/recommended-questionnaire-content-for-england-and-wales.pdf Can't see anything overly intrusive there.
X-13 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 (edited) It's all turned a little bit serious in here. Religion... It's serious business. Can't see anything overly intrusive there. Qualifications for a start. What the hell has that got to go with anything? Edited March 2, 2011 by X-13
MK-2 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 and you dont' want to ask about 6b..... 6b is actually: If you answered "transgender" in a previous section, please fill out both parts of 6a
witch Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Which ones? As I've said, I don't think the religion one is intrusive or unnecessary. This one for a start: A question requiring respondents to disclose which passports they hold.
localzuk Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 This one for a start: A question requiring respondents to disclose which passports they hold. What's intrusive about that? You've got British citizenship I assume, so why wouldn't you want your government to know how many dual citizenship holders etc... they have in the country?
ascott2 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Which ones? As I've said, I don't think the religion one is intrusive or unnecessary. And it is also voluntary, so if people do have a problem with it, skip it.
witch Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 What's intrusive about that? You've got British citizenship I assume, so why wouldn't you want your government to know how many dual citizenship holders etc... they have in the country? Sorry - why?
X-13 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 (edited) This one for a start: A question requiring respondents to disclose which passports they hold. I think that's to see where foreign nationals are coming from. [The start of the crack-down of immagration im guessing.] This seems to be getting quite serious... Initiating distraction. Kitten, ahoy! http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Kitten.jpg Edited March 2, 2011 by X-13
BatchFile Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 (edited) Hang on a minute - they (the government) know how many people were here last census, they know how many have since died and been born (compulsary registration of both), and how many have since entered and left the UK (passport control). They also can find out where everyone lives (electoral roll)... so why do we need a Census again? Given everything else that's been cut surely this is a waste of money? Edited March 2, 2011 by BatchFile
elsiegee40 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 The census website is here: What is the census? - 2011 Census
mthomas08 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 As there appear to be more Jedi than Sikhs, I wonder if anyone could claim religious discrimination if told to remove their lightsaber? BTW, any Jedi should be wary of Scotland where a number of the population are Sith... Drunk Sith As for the church of Apple, wouldnt they charge extortion prices? I am sure they would be much more fussy who they let in. Good side, the queue will be very short so "Quick" to get in.
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