School Support Staff Negotiating Body Scrapped

[CyberNerd]

There was leak in the telegraph on Friday that suggested the SSSNB will be scrapped by the government.

 

The SSSNB is responsible for negotiating national pay and working conditions for school support staff - ie the national framework so NM's/Technicians get paid the same in all schools.

 

GMB link:

SSSNB Scrapping Report

 

 

SSSNB:

School support staff

[GrumbleDook]

It was also interesting to see that the Teachers' review board is not being scrapped.

This is not a comment aimed at teacher bashing but it could end up creating and even worse two-tier class system within the school ... those who are recognised and dealt with by Govt and those that aren't and have to make doe with whatever the school or LA choose to do.

[steve]

Some LAs didn't bother with equal pay for school staff with SSSNB on the horizon.

 

Looks like they'll have to start it now.

[powdarrmonkey]

Your thread title is misleading.

[localzuk]

Kinda makes sense, considering the government's goals to semi-privatise education via academies, free schools and whatever else they can can think up. Academies aren't tied to national pay scales, so what would be the value of such a scale?

 

Obviously, I'm talking from a 'this idea sucks' perspective, but that is how I see it anyway.

 

The probable reason the teachers negotiating body isn't being scrapped is that teachers are far more militant than support staff, due partly to the difference in pay. Losing a day or more in pay is a lot to a TA, but to a teacher? Can be absorbed a lot more easily.

[DrCheese]

This has pretty much been confirmed today

Gove abolishes body that sets teaching assistants' pay | Education | guardian.co.uk

 

Unison is considering balloting for strike action

[tech_guy]

WAAF.....

[DrCheese]

WAAF.....

 

Wat o.O

[mattx]

You lot all sound surprised !! This is what this government came into power to do - screw the poorly paid whilst getting rich of the back of it all. The Tory party along with Clegg's clowns will never change their spots.

[Andrew_C]

It is actually the antithesis of Liberal thinking. The Libs are the only party who acknowledge that taxes on those who can pay will have to go up if we want services (schools, hospitals, etc) to remain at existing levels, never mind improve.

 

They are going to have to swallow some bitter pills during the coalition...

[torledo]

under the headline

 

Headteachers fear many support staff such as caretakers and 'dinner ladies' will end up being underpaid

 

eh ? and that isn't happening at the moment ?

 

Many teaching assistants are paid as little as £11,000 a year for a fulltime job

 

surely, if heads are that worried about low pay, they can do something about it at individual school level, with or without a negotiating body ?

[AyatollahPies]

You lot all sound surprised !! This is what this government came into power to do - screw the poorly paid whilst getting rich of the back of it all. The Tory party along with Clegg's clowns will never change their spots.

 

The gap between Rich and poor grew at a far bigger rate during the 13 years of the last Labour government than at any time since the end of WW2.

 

Gap between rich and poor grows to record levels, official figures show - Telegraph

 

BBC News - Rich-poor divide 'wider than 40 years ago'

 

In short, Labour are no better, but that would upset the views of some on this board.

[somabc]

I was not even aware they existed!

 

I'm not sure if that reflects badly on me or on their impact?

[timzim]

Since Techs & NMs can be anywhere on the national payscale, according to where the school/LEA decides to put them, does it really make any difference? Just look at some of the threads on this site about pay levels - all over the shop.

[localzuk]

Since Techs & NMs can be anywhere on the national payscale, according to where the school/LEA decides to put them, does it really make any difference? Just look at some of the threads on this site about pay levels - all over the shop.

 

As far as I was aware, a national payscale hadn't actually been set yet - ie. the organisation was still very new and still working on it. So, what we currently have it the mixed up hodge-podge system where inequality rules.

[Disease]

The gap between Rich and poor grew at a far bigger rate during the 13 years of the last Labour government than at any time since the end of WW2.

 

 

In short, Labour are no better, but that would upset the views of some on this board.

 

I totally agree, it's funny how so many Labour supporters what tis coalition to fail and yearn for a double dip recession just so they can hide from their miserable record over the last 13 years.