Facility CMIS 2.8 build 34

[AndyCope]

I wouldnt think that using tomcat was a reliable answer in the long-term. It has previously been shown to suffer from exactly the same issues that are now appearing, it is most likely that all the problems being experienced with eportal are as a result of this latest build which doesnt seem to have the benefit of all the previous fixes that have been applied.

 

Using Tomcat or IE7 or Firefox are all possible ways round the problem in individual circumstances, but clearly dont answer the overall issues...

[CyberNerd]

Anyone tried eportal on JBOSS ? I get the impression JBOSS is more enterprise than tomcat.

[maniac]

Using Tomcat or IE7 or Firefox are all possible ways round the problem in individual circumstances, but clearly dont answer the overall issues...

 

Have you ever viewed E-Portal in firefox?? You can drag all the little sections round the screen to create a 'customised' homepage, and it saves their locations when you close the page. IE won't let you do this!

 

Mike

[Jonno]

Using Tomcat or IE7 or Firefox are all possible ways round the problem in individual circumstances, but clearly dont answer the overall issues...

 

Have you ever viewed E-Portal in firefox?? You can drag all the little sections round the screen to create a 'customised' homepage, and it saves their locations when you close the page. IE won't let you do this!

 

Mike

We recently had Facility + ePortal installed, and I questioned the guy installing it, so a couple of things:

 

You are always using Tomcat when you are using ePortal; the IIS interface is just an ISAPI plugin that forwards the requests to the Tomcat server. I imagine it also allows single sign-on to work with LDAP. Why on earth Serco would say the IIS interface is more reliable than not using it is beyond me. They actually couldn't get the IIS interface working on our system (oh the hilarity of watching them crowbar the software onto a 64-bit OS...) so they left us with just the plain Tomcat installation.

 

It's interesting that you can't drag the sections around in IE... I had a discussion with the engineer about this and he told me "IE doesn't support it." And there was me thinking IE was capable of DHTML for years...

[john]

Have you ever viewed E-Portal in firefox?? You can drag all the little sections round the screen to create a 'customised' homepage, and it saves their locations when you close the page. IE won't let you do this!

 

Mike

 

 

I am going to have to try that and see if it works! Sounds cool! (as you can tell i'm an IE only dude normally!)

[rpenhale]

Let this posting be a warning to all, the grass although it may initially appear so is not always greener. Around the time of the SIMS .net conversion we were thinking of jumping ship but despite significant research into alternative products came to the conclusion no other product was able to deliver what we were able to do at the time using SIMS. Since those fraught days of conversion SIMS has improved significantly and is a very strong product. I am not saying it is perfect but I have yet to see another MIS able to deliver all the functionality of SIMS.

 

Richard

[GeorgeFaux]

I do disagree, CMIS is more powerful but less intuative, I have rarely heard it argued that SMIS has more functionality. However SIMS is tighter and has better support (the bane of CMIS). Still it keeps people like me in business.

 

CMIS shoots itself in the foot with daft things like the lack of ability to filter events in e-portal.

 

As for 2.8 (shakes head in a dissapointed manner). Despite the fact that I actually managed to get release notes and a test version early this time it still is so badly tested. Serco always manage to upset there customer base with new releases.

[SilverFox]

Good of you to declare your interest !! Colours your judgement somewhat.

[GeorgeFaux]

Not really. I've used both and they both have differing strengths and weaknesses.

 

SIMS is much more user friendly to admin staff. CMIS can do almost anything that is asked of it but you might need a degree in Fortran and SQL. That however is the problem and the strength.