Little-Miss Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 Facebook to launch kids' panic button | Metro.co.uk Love how they havent deleted the filler text at the bottom!
elsiegee40 Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 BBC version: BBC News - Facebook to launch child safety 'panic button' As I heard it on the radio this morning, facebook are only making it available for young people up to the age of 18. Personally, I think there should be no age restriction. Anything is better than nothing though Still I'm at work at the moment and can't get into fb to check what has appeared. I'll research more later! Facebook CEOP page: Click CEOP | Facebook
Sylv3r Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 I was wanting to add this to our School face book page - I agree if its only available for 13 - 18 year olds it hits the target audience but it might as well be available to all to help spread the word.
elsiegee40 Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 When I get a quiet moment I shall create a child account to see what it's about... unless I can persuade one of my teeangers to let me use their account (don't think so somehow!)
Gatt Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 My only "issue" with this, is this What is to stop a child, who has taken a dislike to an adult on Facebook, etc and clicking the panic button on them.. example - pupil has a teacher as a friend on FB.. teacher gives pupil a bollocking in school over something. When the pupil returns home, he downloads the Panic Button, installs it, then goes to aforementioned teacher and clicks the button, thereby reporting the teacher to CEOP.. I am guessing that CEOP would be compelled to investigate... It is for this reason I do not add pupils as friends on Facebook and would advise anyone on here not to either so as not to put themselves at risk...
e_g_r Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 My only "issue" with this, is this What is to stop a child, who has taken a dislike to an adult on Facebook, etc and clicking the panic button on them.. example - pupil has a teacher as a friend on FB.. teacher gives pupil a bollocking in school over something. When the pupil returns home, he downloads the Panic Button, installs it, then goes to aforementioned teacher and clicks the button, thereby reporting the teacher to CEOP.. I am guessing that CEOP would be compelled to investigate... It is for this reason I do not add pupils as friends on Facebook and would advise anyone on here not to either so as not to put themselves at risk... I'd say tough........all LEA guides tell teachers NOT to become 'friends' on social networking sites with pupils or ex pupils.
PeteM Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 I'd say tough........all LEA guides tell teachers NOT to become 'friends' on social networking sites with pupils or ex pupils. Exactly-the same goes for sharing mobile phone numbers with them etc etc - it's common sense. Our guidelines on social networking extends to parents/carers too
Arthur Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 I'd say tough........all LEA guides tell teachers NOT to become 'friends' on social networking sites with pupils or ex pupils. Don't forget support staff too! It's not just teachers that get falsely accused. Even after students leave, you should leave a minimum of at least 3 years before communicating with ex-students (e-mail, IM, Facebook etc.). That's what our LEA told us.
elsiegee40 Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 As others have said, all guidelines say that you should not be friends with for adults working with children and young people on social networking websites who you know through your professional role. Caution should be exercised with recent leavers. Our AUP and Code of Conduct both state this and also extend social networking to gaming on websites or game consoles such as X-Box and PS3. Gamer tags must not be disclosed to students and if they become known, they must be changed. It's a sad, but necessary, part of today's world that adults must take steps to protect themselves and their careers. As for what's to stop a young person reporting maliciously... the answer is nothing, but then again they can do that by other means than facebook already. There can be only one rule for school staff "cover your back". Don't put yourself in a position where you can be accused.
Arthur Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 It's also worth being a member of a union too (just in case).
webman Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 As for what's to stop a young person reporting maliciously... the answer is nothing, but then again they can do that by other means than facebook already. Which begs the question, is the Facebook/CEOP "panic button" really necessary?
JPS Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 Which begs the question, is the Facebook/CEOP "panic button" really necessary? Yes - i'm gonna use it on all my colleagues that i dont like! Mwah ha ha ha.
elsiegee40 Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 Which begs the question, is the Facebook/CEOP "panic button" really necessary? It is wrongly called a 'panic' button. It is a means of reporting. Equally those worried could call their local police station or crime stoppers. We don't chuck those away because they might be abused. As with many things in life, it is about providing more than one route for people to do things so that they can choose to use the one that they are most comfortable with.
webman Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 I know, that's why I used the quotes. I do understand what you're saying about providing options, but I remain dubious as to how effective they (report buttons on other 3rd party services, not the facility on the CEOP site itself) really are. In the Ashleigh Hall case (which was a large instigator in Facebook's adoption of this) it has been reported that she also used Windows Messenger to communicate with her attacker Peter Chapman. Windows Messenger does carry a CEOP button but seemingly never used. It's my opinion that it's an education issue - if people think they are not in danger then they are unlikely to use the reporting feature.
elsiegee40 Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) Ashleigh Hall did have the option through msn to report as you say... the problem is that those being groomed don't generally realise what is happening so don't report. The abusers are clever at building relationships and it would never occur to most victims that they were being targetted I haven't seen the statistics, but I can't help wondering how many reports are actually made by thirs parties, such as parents, who have become suspicious. Nevertheless, I'll stand by my view that the easier it is to report this kind of thing, the better. If only 1 person gets caught and one person is protected, that's better than none. A report button online is a relatively cheap way of making this available. With teenagers there's always an acceptability problem. Targetting something just at them automatically makes it 'uncool'. Like you said, it's an education issue... up there with safe s3x in terms of importance! Edited July 13, 2010 by elsiegee40
webman Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 I agree. It's not a silver bullet - there are many factors at play and no one single button is the solution to the problems faced. The "it'll never happen to me" invincibility that youngsters seem to have will always be there
Guest Guest Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 Equally those worried could call their local police station or crime stoppers. We don't chuck those away because they might be abused. The problem is most people, not just children, honestly believe things they do on the internet never carry any consiquences. Reporting a teacher as a paedo to the police is a very deliberate action; you need to walk to a pay/public phone, find the number of the cop shop, have a full blown convosation with a person while not laughing (or having your mates laugh behind you)... The panic button is as simple as "Mr bloggs touched me behind the bike shed" *SEND*
elsiegee40 Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 The problem is most people, not just children, honestly believe things they do on the internet never carry any consiquences. Reporting a teacher as a paedo to the police is a very deliberate action; you need to walk to a pay/public phone, find the number of the cop shop, have a full blown convosation with a person while not laughing (or having your mates laugh behind you)... The panic button is as simple as "Mr bloggs touched me behind the bike shed" *SEND* I suggest you go the CEOP page called by the 'panic' button and investigate for youself... it is far from that. There are some very direct questions to answer and those completing the form have to acknowledge that police take all reports seriously and may need to contact the reporter. CEOP Report Abuse Click on the big red button at the bottom Next screen: If someone has acted inappropriately online towards you. This may have included sexual or offensive chat, asking you to do something you dont feel comfortable with, sending you material you find offensive or inappropriate or being insistent about meeting you in the real world. This contact may have been in a chat room, on a message board, in a social networking site, over instant messenger or on a mobile phone and the content could have been sent to you through email, postings and so on.- no matter where, or how it happened you shouldnt have to put up with it and by making a report you could help make the internet safer for not only you but all other users as well. click on Make a CEOP Report Go through a couple of pages of questions: Your consent * Do you agree to your details being shared with international law enforcement agencies? * Check this box if you are a resident of the UK. If your answer is no, you will be redirected to a different site / page where you will be able to select your country of residence. * Check this box to ensure that you understand the following. We take all reports seriously. Police time will be spent in investigating this report and a police officer may be in contact with you if appropriate. Have you already reported this to the police? Each of the above can be agreed to separately It is not as quick or simple as you make out ... don't believe everything you read in the tabloids.
witch Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 elsiegee - how do you feel about the fact that young people have to download it themselves? I fear that they won't do it because of being cool or invincible or whatever and they when they might have used it - it won't be there in front of them. I suppose they could download it then, but will they?
elsiegee40 Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 elsiegee - how do you feel about the fact that young people have to download it themselves? I fear that they won't do it because of being cool or invincible or whatever and they when they might have used it - it won't be there in front of them. I suppose they could download it then, but will they? Being perfectly honest... they won't download. Why would they? They'll never need it Just how uncool can anyone be in even suggesting they might! That's why it should be just generally available like the one on msn.
Guest Guest Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) I suggest you go the CEOP page called by the 'panic' button and investigate for youself... it is far from that. I've looked at the panic button thanks and i stand by my point. Ok it isnt "Mr Bloggs is.." * SEND*. Its "Im under 18", NEXT, NEXT, contact form, "Mr Bloggs did...", Mr Bloggs is, NEXT, NEXT. It took me all of 30 seconds to complete the process. Reading the Daily Mail doesnt make you better than me you know Edited July 13, 2010 by Guest
elsiegee40 Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 I've looked at the panic button thanks and i stand by my point. Ok it isnt "Mr Bloggs is.." * SEND*. Its "Im under 18", NEXT, NEXT, contact form, "Mr Bloggs did...", Mr Bloggs is, NEXT, NEXT. It took me all of 30 seconds to complete the process. Reading the Daily Mail doesnt make you better than me you know Don't read the Mail, except at the outlaws... I'll leave you to work out what I do read
elsiegee40 Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 I've been having a play with the facebook app: ClickCEOP App - Facebook While facebook are only promoting it with those aged betwen 13 and 18, anyone can use it. It can put a tab on your facebook page, there's a 'badge' to share and you can bookmark 'clickCEOP' I've added the tab to my profile... I doubt my kids will, but they know where they can get to it should they feel the need!
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